Caporegime
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There is no racing line when you go two-by-two. You leave space for the other driver, whether you're on the inside or outside. What's why I have a problem when Hamilton used to push Rosberg off the track repeatedly (and exclusively, he didn't do it to anyone else) and why Vettel was at fault today.
Absolute nonsense, and your previous post was full of it to. Ferrari have clearly and obviously the faster car. You can't take Kimi as a measurement of Ferrari's speed when almost every race Kimi is 10-20 seconds over a race distance slower than Vettel, same for Bottas and Mercedes.
On the one set of tires thing, the tires were irrelevant. All year you get blistering on ANY tire if you push too hard out of the pits, it's that simple. Kimi was over 6 seconds ahead of Ham when Ham came out of the pits. He got blistering because he pushed too hard, nothing more or less. Ham followed Kimi within 1.2 seconds for what 30+ laps and then went another 8 laps further than Kimi, following people really doesn't mess with your tires as much as people like to believe it does.
As for the racing line nonsense, there are hard and fast rules, if you're ahead at the apex you are entitled to space if you're on the outside, if you're on the inside and you're ahead at apex you're entitled to the racing line. The bull about Hamilton not shoving anyone off track but Rosberg is just laughable and biased. First, he's done it to plenty of people, second, Rosberg did it to Hamilton multiple times over their years in that team and Hamilton nor any one else ever cared about it, because it's normal racing. Also Alonso, Vettel, Ricciardo, Bottas, Kimi, Verstappen and literally everyone on the grid does that because that is a fundamental way racing has worked for a very very long time.
The idea he only did that to Rosberg and that somehow even if true you have a problem with a standard racing principle which has been around for decades and every driver uses is utterly absurd.
Hamilton only really did it to Rosberg from 2014-2016.... because he was rarely fighting with anyone else but I'd be very surprised if there still aren't cases of him doing that to other drivers.
The fact is Rosberg made a huge deal out of it because instead of following , you know, the rules in racing, he decided to that one time despite being half a car length behind at the apex after a late braking move which had zero chance of turning into a pass rather than giving up the corner like everyone else would have done he decided to hit Hamilton. Then it became a thing, that Hamilton runs him wide and that he's some kind of victim of it. Rosberg literally did that to Canada at T1 earlier that season and Hamilton didn't say a thing, because it's how racing works. If you hang it out and hope for the best when you're too far back you end up off track or making contact. Why did Hamilton back out against Kimi in the same corner he passed Vettel, because he knew Kimi would be ahead at apex, he knew it would be a tight turn and he might make contact so he backed out early. More often than not drivers read it and back out early, when they don't they get run wide and most realise it's there fault, Rosberg turned into a cry baby where he could run Hamilton off but if Hamilton did it to him it was unfair, so he straight hit Hamilton while also pretending to be the victim.