Poll: Italian Grand Prix 2018, Monza - Race 14/21

[Mr Jack]

Here we go then.

The Stewards therefore find the Car to be in breach of the regulation Article 3.7.1.d of the 2018 FIA Technical Regulations as clarified in TD/033-18 and order that Car 8 be Disqualified from the results and that the classification be amended.

Right we are. So Sirotkin gets his first points, and New Force India are up to seventh after their second race!

 

[4K8KW10]

Ok then, from that picture, how did Hamilton force Vettel off the track? If anything, Vettel was trying to force Hamilton off the track.

Hamilton had a trajectory of cutting the corner, so effectively, he did not leave enough room. Sebastian couldn't physically pass it without collision.

 

[Sparky]

Seb had plenty of pace to take the race, his actions that caused the collision are his own fault and he should have played the long game. Sometimes wonder if his ego cloud his judgement.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

Reading the Haas letter, it’s a bit of a low blow if they’re hanging their argument on the lack of response from the technical delegate.

Seems like they tried to comply, sent an email, never got a response and assumed legality. Harsh in my opinion.

 

[4K8KW10]

Seb had plenty of pace to take the race, his actions that caused the collision are his own fault and he should have played the long game. Sometimes wonder if his ego cloud his judgement.

I think that we will never know IF Ferrari had the faster race car... Monza has always been or most of the time been extremely unsuitable circuit for their cars and disappointments happen every year.

 

[The_Abyss]

Why?
There is a bigger problem - not only will Kimi not help, but also will he be the reason to lose the Championship.

So you're getting your defence in early, and blaming Kimi for Vettel not winning the WDC this year.

This must be a troll account, surely!

The biggest problem is sitting behind the wheel of car number 5. The second biggest problem is the operational side of Ferrari, including their strategists. I'm actually worried that their lack of ability to capitalise on their performance is going to cheapen the value of what should be the best of Hamilton's WDCs!

 

[The_Abyss]

I've fixed that for you.

I think that we will never know IF Ferrari had the faster race car... F1 has always been or most of the time been extremely unsuitable championship for their cars and disappointments happen every year.

 

[Flibster]

Reading the Haas letter, it’s a bit of a low blow if they’re hanging their argument on the lack of response from the technical delegate.

Seems like they tried to comply, sent an email, never got a response and assumed legality. Harsh in my opinion.

They were told it needed to be in place for Monza, they couldn't manage it, Grosjean has been disqualified.

Oddly, not Magnussen though...

 

[4K8KW10]

So you're getting your defence in early, and blaming Kimi for Vettel not winning the WDC this year.

Kimi is slow and Sebastian needs to spend additional energy to fight with him. What more should you add?

 

[Deleted member 651465]

They were told it needed to be in place for Monza, they couldn't manage it, they've been disqualified.

I’m just bitter because it screws my fantasy f1 result

 

[Irish_Tom]

Hamilton had a trajectory of cutting the corner, so effectively, he did not leave enough room. Sebastian couldn't physically pass it without collision.

It looks to me like the two Ferraris are cutting the corner and Hamilton is the only one going around it.

 

[413x]

Just watched

Have to give this one to an absolutely fantastic drive by Hamilton and a costly small. Mistake by vettel.
Feel a bit for Kimi. His tires died.

What a horrible day to be a ferrari supporter... Lol
Felt like a slam. Dunk ferrari one two. With two Bottas' in merc this championship would be over already. I dont support Hamilton but he is amazing.
This could be the point he wins this year.

Silly by vestappen.
All steward decisions today were valid

Looks like haas will overhaul Renault. That engine is letting them down. So very Dissapointed by that.

 

[Mr Jack]

Hamilton had a trajectory of cutting the corner, so effectively, he did not leave enough room. Sebastian couldn't physically pass it without collision.

Lol.

No. He could have stayed left, instead he hit Lewis. 100% Vettel's fault.

 

[Sparky]

It looks to me like the two Ferraris are cutting the corner and Hamilton is the only one going around it.

Cars have got wider, corner hasnt, Sebs fault all day long.

 

[Flibster]

Also, clutch failure for Ricciardo, nothing related to the power unit.

https://twitter.com/RenaultSportF1/status/1036291575998017537

 

[Deleted member 651465]

Disgusting corner cutting cheater.

 

[andicole0]

Groesjan DQ'd following Renaults protest. Oops missed earlier post sry.
@4K8KW10 you are so wrong
Andi.

 

[Flibster]

Haas have about 30 minutes to get their appeal in. Window closes at 10:31pm local time.

 

[mmj_uk]

Hamilton had a trajectory of cutting the corner, so effectively, he did not leave enough room. Sebastian couldn't physically pass it without collision.

Rubbish. Vettel had to make a tighter turn to avoid hitting Hamilton so what he had to do was slow down more. He can't match Hamilton's speed through the corner whilst taking a tighter turn. He needed to accept that the position was already lost and focus on repassing Lewis later.

 

[Mr Jack]

No. He could have stayed left, instead he hit Lewis. 100% Vettel's fault.

Actually, re-watching the first part of this, I was wrong:

He's got full left lock on. Vettel should have dropped behind Lewis or pushed wider on entry to protect his line, instead he takes the corner clumsily and ends up in the inevitable accident. 100% Vettel's fault. Inept.