It’s all kicking off in Bristol

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Shame on you Bristol.

This is what you get when most residents can't tell the difference between a Sea Shanty and Drill Music.

And the people that broken the bones of the police are the ones that call 999 when their stolen PS5 gets stolen.
 
dLockers said:
Well somehow all of the big ones under fire managed to deliver millions of bits of PPE. Quality suffered in favour of time and cost. Like every project in the world.

I'm just thankful we have folk who can shake a hand, make a call, and get billions of random bits of stuff delivered at a moments notice. Thank god we didn't need it.
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So am I. Im very thankful we gave a 200 million pound contract to a jewellers for PPE and paid 20 + mil for someone to set the deal up.

Its a scam.
 
200sols said:
Hahaha.
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...spending-on-plastic-bullets-triples-in-a-year
The Met police have tripled their spending on plastic bullets in a single year, according to figures seen by the Guardian.

The force spent more than £500,000 on the ammunition in 2017 – more than three times the average annual spend for the previous five years.

The figures have emerged amid growing fears about the potential for a no-deal Brexit to result in civil disorder. Last month, the Guardian learned that almost 1,000 police officers from England and Scotland were due to begin training for deployment in Northern Ireland in case of trouble in the event of no deal.

A freedom of information request by the Guardian revealed forces across the country have spent more than £8.2m on stocks over the past seven years, with spending dramatically increasing in the years after the 2011 riots.

The figures are based on the amounts paid to the Home Office for the provision of what are officially known as attenuating energy projectiles (AEPs). While they continue to be used by police in Northern Ireland, they have never been used by forces in Great Britain when confronted with street disorder.

Sources at the force said the AEPs had been acquired because there were more firearms officers in training, resulting in existing stocks expiring.
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I will literally never understand the bootlickers that will roll over, beg and play dead for the police. Fair enough if you're bang to rights but holy moly this lobotomistic view of obeying authority no matter what because some kid did a 2 week course straight out of school is insane.
 
dLockers said:
Well somehow all of the big ones under fire managed to deliver millions of bits of PPE. Quality suffered in favour of time and cost. Like every project in the world.

I'm just thankful we have folk who can shake a hand, make a call, and get billions of random bits of stuff delivered at a moments notice. Thank god we didn't need it.
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we didn’t need it? We didn’t have enough. Hospitals were woefully under resourced! What are you talking about?

Bouton Aide said:
Cheers should finish all 307 pages by tomorrow. :D

Is there any reason for gov to introduce this?
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It’s an authoritarian power grab to stop dissenting voices and prevent us underlings from exercising our democratic rights and arranging protests. They have made noisy protests illegal. It’s as daft as making cake, without flour, illegal. It can be done, but it’s a pointless waste of time.
 
Ahleckz said:
we didn’t need it? We didn’t have enough. Hospitals were woefully under resourced! What are you talking about?



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A lot of it is now stockpiled as the peak was reached, thankfully. Now regular supply chains and procurement processes are operating as they should. I was very close to a significant operation and it was amazing to see my colleagues do the impossible. Inspiring stuff.
 
Ahleckz said:
It’s an authoritarian power grab to stop dissenting voices and prevent us underlings from exercising our democratic rights and arranging protests. They have made noisy protests illegal. It’s as daft as making cake, without flour, illegal. It can be done, but it’s a pointless waste of time.
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What makes me laugh most is that Peter Hitchens, demagogue of the Right and The Church of The Daily Mail's Readership (oh, hi, @deuse) has been saying this since the first lockdown and he's absolutely correct.
 
dLockers said:
A lot of it is now stockpiled as the peak was reached, thankfully. Now regular supply chains and procurement processes are operating as they should. I was very close to a significant operation and it was amazing to see my colleagues do the impossible. Inspiring stuff.
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I was pretty close to front line, ICU, health professionals and they constantly said they didn’t have the correct equipment and when they did they didn’t have enough. I’m not really sure what you mean but I don’t think people ordering face masks is particularly inspiring. But, this probably isn’t the place for this.

You’re right that things seem better now, but the idea that there was a time where there was plenty PPE to go around in front line hospitals isn’t the reality when speaking to health professionals across the country who work in hospitals.
 
Ahleckz said:
I was pretty close to front line, ICU, health professionals and they constantly said they didn’t have the correct equipment and when they did they didn’t have enough. I’m not really sure what you mean but I don’t think people ordering face masks is particularly inspiring. But, this probably isn’t the place for this.

You’re right that things seem better now, but the idea that there was a time where there was plenty PPE to go around in front line hospitals isn’t the reality when speaking to health professionals across the country who work in hospitals.
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I think you've deliberately misunderstood everything I said. The chaps I work with weren't ordering masks either, not sure they'd know where to get them from. Good chat though :)
 
dLockers said:
I think you've deliberately misunderstood everything I said. The chaps I work with weren't ordering masks either, not sure they'd know where to get them from. Good chat though :)
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I’m legitimately not, just taking what you have stated at face value. If I’ve picked you up wrong so be it and I apologise.

*awkward elbow bump* good day sir
 
Tony Edwards said:
They dont like people saying OI NO!
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The ones who shout loudest gets their wrists slapt.

Ahleckz said:
we didn’t need it? We didn’t have enough. Hospitals were woefully under resourced! What are you talking about?

It’s an authoritarian power grab to stop dissenting voices and prevent us underlings from exercising our democratic rights and arranging protests. They have made noisy protests illegal. It’s as daft as making cake, without flour, illegal. It can be done, but it’s a pointless waste of time.
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won't be long n you can't pea on the toilet without been watched. :D
 
omnomnom said:
So am I. Im very thankful we gave a 200 million pound contract to a jewellers for PPE and paid 20 + mil for someone to set the deal up.

Its a scam.
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This is one of the main things I'm going to remember about this epidemic. The blatant and open procurement corruption that the Tories indulged in.

Like this one:
Government Awards £8.4 Million in PPE Procurement Contracts to Dormant Firm – Byline Times

Or the one where they paid some 20-something Del Boy type a few £million, for making a phone call to one of his mates who promised to find some PPE.

I don't think it's gross incompetence. I'm sure this is blatant and not even well-hidden corruption and diverting money to friends/donors/co-conspirators/fraudsters.

Don't forget this. In the middle of a national crisis the Tories were finding ways to steal our money and being completely blatant about it.

e: Love this:
To shine a light on one of the greatest spending sprees in Britain’s postwar era, The New York Times analyzed a large segment of it, the roughly 1,200 central government contracts that have been made public, together worth nearly $22 billion. Of that, about $11 billion went to companies either run by friends and associates of politicians in the Conservative Party, or with no prior experience or a history of controversy. Meanwhile, smaller firms without political clout got nowhere.
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£11 billion to mates of the Tory party, under "emergency powers".

**** the lot of them. You lot voted for this.
 
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You guys don't have a clue. A competitive tendering process with such a dynamic market? lol.

"Chaps you have 5 days to listen, 5 days to respond, 5 days to come to orals"... yeah right, hundreds would be dead already.

And by the way, awarding a contract doesn't mean cash left the bank. There is a thing called a Goods Receipt and Invoice Receipt as part of a 3 way match. Whilst source to contract may have been expedited allowing quality escapes, no one is getting paid unless something is delivered.
 
dLockers said:
You guys don't have a clue. A competitive tendering process with such a dynamic market? lol.

"Chaps you have 5 days to listen, 5 days to respond, 5 days to come to orals"... yeah right, hundreds would be dead already.

And by the way, awarding a contract doesn't mean cash left the bank. There is a thing called a Goods Receipt and Invoice Receipt as part of a 3 way match. Whilst source to contract may have been expedited allowing quality escapes, no one is getting paid unless something is delivered.
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Much of the PPE ordered couldn't be used as it didn't meet UK safety standards.

The only thing that happened is associates of the Tory party made bank.

I look forward to the review of govt spending when this is all over, and I sincerely hope heads roll.
 
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