I've given up on LPG - the future is Electric.

Name thousands of employers which have those facilities.

Out of the all the places I've worked, a big fat zero have recharge facilities.:D

They're beginning to increase in popularity, I know several large-ish companies in Essex who are either planning to install recharge points in the next 12-18 months or who have done so in the previous 12 months.
 
They're beginning to increase in popularity, I know several large-ish companies in Essex who are either planning to install recharge points in the next 12-18 months or who have done so in the previous 12 months.

My company has one outside their main reception although 99% of the time it is occupied by some company Renault van thing as I guess it is always flat :o.
 
Interesting that your real world range is so low :( i'd love an electric car for my daily commute but i do about 50miles on a normal day but can easily be upwards of 90 if i do the food shopping on the way home so sounds like it'll still be a few years off when i can get one.

I've already got solar panels on my house too so it'd be ideal for me, for the record i paid just under £2,000 for a 2KW setup fully installed so dunno where some people are getting their numbers from in this thread! I also had to have them installed as it was a stipulation of my planning permission when building my new house.
 
My employer provides free 7kw recharge points at work with the added bonus of them being right at the front of the car park.

I assume they get some kind of government payment/tax rebate for it.

I assume there is some benefit going on - as we have 2 charging points, and 4 senior members of staff who have "hybrid" company cars (A3 etron,2xMerc C350e, Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV), despite us being in a relatively rural location.
 
Electric cars are the future. Cheaper EVs for commuting, shopping, etc and larger more expensive EVs for longer journeys. There's nowhere in the UK I couldn't take my Tesla, maybe with the exception of the Scottish highlands. I can start with a full charge at home (~250 miles at reasonable pace) and there are plenty of charging options on the motorway network as well as the Tesla superchargers. They're smoother, quieter, (usually) faster than their ICE equivalent in the same segment, greener.

Hybrids are a somewhat pointless middle ground in my opinion.
 
Electric cars are the future. Cheaper EVs for commuting, shopping, etc and larger more expensive EVs for longer journeys. There's nowhere in the UK I couldn't take my Tesla, maybe with the exception of the Scottish highlands. I can start with a full charge at home (~250 miles at reasonable pace) and there are plenty of charging options on the motorway network as well as the Tesla superchargers. They're smoother, quieter, (usually) faster than their ICE equivalent in the same segment, greener.

Hybrids are a somewhat pointless middle ground in my opinion.

Say you have taken your Tesla up to the Scottish highlands. Only to be rang by your mother that your father is desperately ill and will only last a few hours. How are you going to get back down south so quickly? Apart from ditching your electric car and renting/borrowing a petrol?

I was about to embark on a 1300 mile trip to Eastern Poland but I had a broken crank position sensor (One of those one in a million things). I needed it within half a day and had to do a 300 mile round trip to get the part. Luckily my second car was ICE. I would have been buggered if it was EV and would have had to cancel/re-book my crossings and hotels.

At the moment at least electric lacks the spontaneous driving that petrol offers.
 
Say you have taken your Tesla up to the Scottish highlands. Only to be rang by your mother that your father is desperately ill and will only last a few hours. How are you going to get back down south so quickly? Apart from ditching your electric car and renting/borrowing a petrol?

The chance of anything like this happening is so remote that you are probably multiple times more likely to encounter something way beyond your control like a motorway traffic jam (where your fantastic petrol car would be no better than the EV) on your mad dash home. Its a virtually irrelevant point.

An EV would suit me perfectly, except for the fact I only have access to a driveway about 1 day in every 14 and park on the road the rest of the time. I could do several commutes on 1 charge, the vast majority of journeys I do are well within range of even the poorer EVs at the moment. If there was one that was a near carbon copy of my ST (price, performance and looks) I'd be all over it when I move later in the year.
 
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Electric cars are the future. Cheaper EVs for commuting, shopping, etc and larger more expensive EVs for longer journeys. There's nowhere in the UK I couldn't take my Tesla, maybe with the exception of the Scottish highlands. I can start with a full charge at home (~250 miles at reasonable pace) and there are plenty of charging options on the motorway network as well as the Tesla superchargers. They're smoother, quieter, (usually) faster than their ICE equivalent in the same segment, greener.

Hybrids are a somewhat pointless middle ground in my opinion.

Mate your in a £60k car that could be made by Fisher Price. The middle ground you dismiss is where you can get cars with actual craftmanship for less money....
 
Say you have taken your Tesla up to the Scottish highlands. Only to be rang by your mother that your father is desperately ill and will only last a few hours. How are you going to get back down south so quickly? Apart from ditching your electric car and renting/borrowing a petrol?

Car? I'd be on the plane chap.
 
Mate your in a £60k car that could be made by Fisher Price. The middle ground you dismiss is where you can get cars with actual craftmanship for less money....

I didn't say that Tesla was the future. As a low volume manufacturer they're going to have quality issues however they have moved the industry forward significantly. I'd expect to see all of the mainstream manufacturers announce a credible pure EV alternative within the next few years. Then there's Tesla's own model 3, if that comes to fruition in roughly the form that was promised.
 
Mate your in a £60k car that could be made by Fisher Price. The middle ground you dismiss is where you can get cars with actual craftmanship for less money....

I'm a bit curious about this comment. Do you hate Tesla that much that you liken them to Fisher Price products and discredit them as items with "no craftsmanship"? I like Tesla quite a bit and am really struggling ti find any validity to this comment.
 
Have you sat in one? Just the interior fit and finish is nothing like segment expectation, this has to be expected with the huge powertrain cost I guess.
 
The only time I've sat in one was in their showroom at Westfield, but that would obviously be tweaked to look its best, so no, not really. Next time I have the opportunity I'll have a proper look inside.
 
Have you sat in one? Just the interior fit and finish is nothing like segment expectation, this has to be expected with the huge powertrain cost I guess.

I really dont understand why people compare a £80k Tesla with an £80k premium car. The total cost of ownership is simply not comparable, and that's the important number after all.
 
Electric cars are the future. Cheaper EVs for commuting, shopping, etc and larger more expensive EVs for longer journeys. There's nowhere in the UK I couldn't take my Tesla, maybe with the exception of the Scottish highlands. I can start with a full charge at home (~250 miles at reasonable pace) and there are plenty of charging options on the motorway network as well as the Tesla superchargers. They're smoother, quieter, (usually) faster than their ICE equivalent in the same segment, greener.

Hybrids are a somewhat pointless middle ground in my opinion.

I'd buy an electric car if it had a 250 mile range at an affordable price.

A 70 mile range would be way too limiting for me.
 
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