Caporegime
Has anyone pointed out that 'I've got someone sacked' is incorrect grammar? This is by far the OP's biggest failing.
I've Got Someone Sacked .....
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Caporegime
Haha, hadn't even thought of that. He could then lie to his boss about why he was late for work. After all - in for a penny, in for a pound.
Soldato
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Hedge said:
to be honest, not much scope for getting the productivity any lower in those environments either
if anything a few beers might actually get them working.as for the armed forces, they have a different approach and mindset to your typical british factory worker. they also have a different way of dealing with it.
No mention in the thread about how long the journey to work is? Or how close they were to work when the employee made his admission?
For all we know it could be a 1 hr commute and the guy let slip as they were pulling into the carpark. You think OP should then turn around and drive this guy back to his house and give him a stern word. Doubtful.
Guy was under the influence at the end of the day so its his problem.
Could the OP have handled it better? Sure probably.
Did the OP do the right thing in preventing an employee under the influence from operating heavy machinery? Absolutely.
For all we know it could be a 1 hr commute and the guy let slip as they were pulling into the carpark. You think OP should then turn around and drive this guy back to his house and give him a stern word. Doubtful.
Guy was under the influence at the end of the day so its his problem.
Could the OP have handled it better? Sure probably.
Did the OP do the right thing in preventing an employee under the influence from operating heavy machinery? Absolutely.
I keep reading this thread on and off and then thinking to myself 'why are people still having a go at the OP'.
Every job I've had, if you came in drunk you were sent straight home and disciplinary proceedings would follow. No matter what the work was, drunk = out.
Every job I've had, if you came in drunk you were sent straight home and disciplinary proceedings would follow. No matter what the work was, drunk = out.
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not read all the replys, but me, woulda said look mate, cant let you go into work after hearing that and told him to pull a sicky and sort his S##t out.
Soldato
I think the best thing to do here would have been to just tell the person to take the day off and call in sick, while reminding him that he really shouldn't do it again. That way he doesn't turn up drunk and you wouldn't have had to get him sacked.
That said, although it could have been handled better, the OP indisputably did the right thing here. It's damning of society that it's seen as 'wrong' to cover up somebody else's wrongdoings.
That said, although it could have been handled better, the OP indisputably did the right thing here. It's damning of society that it's seen as 'wrong' to cover up somebody else's wrongdoings.
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op drove him to work knowing this then told his boss and got him the sack, when he coulda spoke to the drunk person before he arrived at work ?!?
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be worth you reading the whole thread..but in summary, this was not an option for the op, even if he did take him home he would have needed to tell his management or would be at risk of his own job.Kezmo said:
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Read the thread.
Also, the OP is in a position of authority as a Team Leader. If my TL knew I'd been out drinking the night before and I called in sick he'd be obligated to report me for this as it's obviously not good that a) I was drinking before work and b) unfit for work because of this.
Disciplinary proceedings would be followed and the outcome would be the same. Sick days cost the economy a lot of money so companies do their best to crack down on sick days. Calling in sick because you got drunk is risky.
Soldato
Actually - the right thing would have been to speak to him about it as he told you - you have duty of care for everyone and watching him walk on site under the influence of alcohol is irresponsible imo
Soldato
I would say there's a difference between:
Having too much the night before, realising this in the morning and calling in sick.
and
Drinking in the morning when you know you have work later, and then going to work anyway.
People do screw up or get carried away on a night out, and yes, it's completely irresponsible to do so when you've got work the next day, but calling in sick is the right thing to do in this case, although I would still expect a disciplinary of some kind if you got found out (on the spot sacking would be a bit much unless it was a recurring thing).
Intentionally going to work drunk (what else could you possibly expect from drinking 4 cans of 6.5% lager a couple of hours before hand) is on a completely different level.
What about escorting him directly to the manager's office upon arrival?
Soldato
Stoopid double post...
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4 cans of beer? He probably would have been okay if it was the night before but not the same day.
It looks 50/50 to me. You done the right thing as he could have caused an accident on the other hand you have just ruined the guys life
It looks 50/50 to me. You done the right thing as he could have caused an accident on the other hand you have just ruined the guys life
Soldato
The guy ruined his own life. All the OP did was stop him from potentially ruining someone else's.
Just did a quick test on here: http://www.drinkdriving.org/drink_driving_information_bloodalcoholcontentcalculator.php
using age of 30, weight of 70kg and 6hrs since first drink.
It gives 0.15% BAC, the UK drink drive limit is 0.08%, so he could have been almost double that.
i cannot see how anyone over the age of 18 doesn't get this. the bloke who drank has no one to blame but himself. the op has done nothing wrong. he has done it for the well being of others, something the bloke who drank 4 cans had zero thought for.
Caporegime
SNITCHES GET STITCHES BRO!
