I've Got Someone Sacked .....

Srengam said:
It surprises me how many people think OP done the right thing, their's more to life than was is officially right and wrong. This should be called the polically correct thread where anthing not absolutely PC is spat at.
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Yes, there is also doing the sensible thing when you're operating heavy machinery of any kind, or someone you know is going to.

Perhaps some of us have some kind of appreciation of the sort of hazards that are involved even in driving a normal car, let alone things like forklifts, JCB's, or other heavy machinery in an often cramped environment with other people.

To put it bluntly if I was in a situation where someone who was meant to be operating heavy machinery came in drunk, I wouldn't hesitate to inform whoever was in charge of the site - I don't want someone putting MY life at risk because he hasn't got the brain cells required to understand that you don't drunk before going into work (let alone work where it is a hazard).

Now, if you feel happy to work with someone who has his judgement impaired through drink and operating even just a Forklift, feel free, whilst the adults who have a rough idea of the risks that are involved in even just power tools carry on with our lives, with a higher chance of making through to our old age with the same number of extremities that we entered the world with.

It's not PC, it's called being responsible, acting like an adult, and ensuring that your work environment is as safe as possible for what it is.

The guy put the op in a hard place, potentially with little time to think.
The Op took a course of action that protected himself and everyone other than the one who was stupid enough to think "I'll get half plastered before work".
 
Srengam said:
Of course not, nearly three times that and in a very responsible position.

It surprises me how many people think OP done the right thing, their's more to life than was is officially right and wrong. This should be called the polically correct thread where anthing not absolutely PC is spat at.

Their must be a lot of proud Mums out there, they're probably actually sat next to the PC posters where maybe one day friends could sit (maybe).
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Its equally not as cut and dried on the other side.

In an ideal world it would have been a simple "Go home and phone in" or the turning of a blind eye "just this once".

In theory im behind that 100%

UNTIL im the supervisor and the guy does the same thing next week and has an accident and suddenly theres an investigation into his conduct. All of a sudden his colleagues say they have been smelling drink off him previously yet me, as his immediate boss and lift to work, did nothing.

Then its a whole new ball game for the OP.
 
I've just finished work about an hour ago and have been going through this thread.

To clarify , he never told me what he'd drank on the journey into work. He told me about 30 steps from the clocking in machine.

Firstly, i had literally from clocking in , to having a short handover then onto the shop floor to make a decision on what to do. Secondly, i reported it to my supervisor who then made the decision to take it further onto the manager.

I still stand by what i did yet I'm still beating myself up over it big time - like should i have told him to go home and phone in sick (which i didn't think of at the time). He was the nicest of nice lads who i know would have taken this as a kick up the backside if he was to keep his job. I've been into to see the big boss and more or less pleaded with him to give him a second chance because everyone makes a mistake and deserves a 2nd chance. I'm not defending drunk people going to work but it was completely out of character for the lad....

The replies on this forum are by people who have had time to think and then make an opinion. Some of the replies have even been re-edited (like this one!!). At the time I had no time to think , i was on the spot and had to make a decision there and then.

To all the people who think i'm a 'grass' 'snitch' etc, well i've been working long enough to have seen a lot of things that no man should ever see. I've seen a leg crushed by a forklift , bones i shouldn't have and a foot that wasn't a foot ... and all these accidents were caused by SOBER drivers.
 
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I probably would've refused to take him to work and made him stay home. However the OP is in no way a 'snitch' as some poster are referring him as just for having the common decency of looking out for the safety of his fellow work colleagues. He was probably under pressure at that moment and hadn't had the time to carefully think over his course of action (gotta concentrate on that driving otherwise ironically he'd be the one causing an accident).

Though however this could have played out, the blame will always lie with the guy who started drinking in the first place.
 
OP did the right thing, ignore the naysayers.

Ultimately, the incident would have had to have been reported no matter what the OP did, if he told him to go home it would have had to be reported and the outcome may have been the same.
 
Werewolf said:
Yes, there is also doing the sensible thing when you're operating heavy machinery of any kind, or someone you know is going to.

Perhaps some of us have some kind of appreciation of the sort of hazards that are involved even in driving a normal car, let alone things like forklifts, JCB's, or other heavy machinery in an often cramped environment with other people.

To put it bluntly if I was in a situation where someone who was meant to be operating heavy machinery came in drunk, I wouldn't hesitate to inform whoever was in charge of the site - I don't want someone putting MY life at risk because he hasn't got the brain cells required to understand that you don't drunk before going into work (let alone work where it is a hazard).

Now, if you feel happy to work with someone who has his judgement impaired through drink and operating even just a Forklift, feel free, whilst the adults who have a rough idea of the risks that are involved in even just power tools carry on with our lives, with a higher chance of making through to our old age with the same number of extremities that we entered the world with.

It's not PC, it's called being responsible, acting like an adult, and ensuring that your work environment is as safe as possible for what it is.

The guy put the op in a hard place, potentially with little time to think.
The Op took a course of action that protected himself and everyone other than the one who was stupid enough to think "I'll get half plastered before work".
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albert said:
I've just finished work about an hour ago and have been going through this thread.

To clarify , he never told me what he'd drank on the journey into work. He told me about 30 steps from the clocking in machine.

Firstly, i had literally from clocking in , to having a short handover then onto the shop floor to make a decision on what to do. Secondly, i reported it to my supervisor who then made the decision to take it further onto the manager.
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It would have been great if you actually gave us this information in the first place.

On that note then I think you did the right thing.
 
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@albert, you did right. You may have saved lives, it may been a day you never forgot if you let him go into work under the influence.

No alcohol before work, it's as simple as that really.

You see, people never no the true facts of a whole story I hate how the people judged before knowing this. Lesson learnt to all the people who jumped in with 2 feet.
 
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It truly amazes me that people are throwing insults at the OP for what he did, yet not one of these people appears to actually be criticising the actions of someone coming into work heavily intoxicated with the intention of operating heavy machinery. It's really no different to drink driving in terms of the damage it could do, would the responses still be the same then?

I do agree that the OP could have potentially dealt with the situation there and then (and evidently he does too), but often when you're thrown into something like that you don't quite know how to react, and it certainly doesn't mean he did the wrong thing. The only person responsible for the guy losing his job is the guy himself; he made the decision to get drunk and then go into work.

Hardly surprises me that people would rather blame someone else though, that seems to be the done thing these days.
 
I'm 100% on your side but you need to get your story straight.

A few posts ago -

albert said:
To clarify , he never told me what he'd drank on the journey into work. He told me about 30 steps from the clocking in machine.
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albert said:
I'm a Team Leader at work and pick up a workmate on my way to work. On the way there he told me he'd had 4 cans of lager a couple of hours previous. As he drives machinery at work i told my supervisor what he'd said in the car. Subsequently the lad was taken to office and then walked off site. He had worked with me for a year and a half.
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I'm glad this thread is on the front page again.

OP, you did the right thing, the only other option was to tell him to go home, and then tell the managers, I doubt the outcome would've been any different if you'd done that tho.

The guy is an idiot, he was sitting in a car with his superior and told him he'd just had 4 cans of lager. What the hell did he think would happen? That you'd just say, "Oh lol you, har har, make sure you don't kill anyone, LOL".

I seriously wonder about the people who think he should've let him go to work, I can only hope that you're young and just being a bit immature? At least with that attitude you'll never actually be in a position of responsibility....
 
albert said:
I've just finished work about an hour ago and have been going through this thread.

To clarify , he never told me what he'd drank on the journey into work. He told me about 30 steps from the clocking in machine.

Firstly, i had literally from clocking in , to having a short handover then onto the shop floor to make a decision on what to do. Secondly, i reported it to my supervisor who then made the decision to take it further onto the manager.
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Which is somewhat different from the events you regaled us with earlier.
 
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