• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

Ive upgraded CPU 3 times in 4 years, what to upgrade to now?

CES oh yes, 1st one after covid, wonder if this one will have a few suprises for the PC gaming community, maybe intel will suprise us with somthing, also EVGA?

it will probably take a minimum of 3 months before new tech hits retail stores, just waitn on the CPU and motherboard announcements...
 
High end AMD or Intel from last generation won’t be bottlenecking your GPU at 4K, maybe only in very specific scenarios.
You have two paths: AM5 + 7600X then change CPU for 3D cache when available. The 7600X won’t lose much value as a higher end one would. Or sticking with Intel, get the fastest one and forget. Likely to be a dead end socket, as new generation will be new socket.
 
hobib_ali said:
any updates on whats available from AMD in terms of a new CPU vs Intel?

A lot of people are going for the 13th gen Intel chips, no?
Click to expand...

7000X3d releases February
Possibly will take the gaming crown not sure what intel has planned next or when , that's not to say what currently out is now not good it's got to the point won't notice the difference when actually playing

Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

These new 3D cache CPU's will be great for those on AM4 who were in two minds about switching platforms to AM5. If you're already running a Ryzen above the 7600x, then I personally don't think the outlay will be worth it. They still won't switch because AM5 motherboards are too expensive and...
forums.overclockers.co.uk forums.overclockers.co.uk
 
Last edited:
With Intel you can opt for a DDR4 Motherboard, that brings the price down from DDR5 motherboard, £170 vs £230 for a half decent one, with AM5 (AMD) its DDR5 only so you're paying upwards of £180 for a B650 motherboard and you would really probably want one at £230 like the Asus TUF Gaming, they are not cheap, IMO DDR5 Motherboard still carry too much of a premium.

Having said that if you do opt for a DDR4 Intel the gaming performance is about 10% lower.

The gaming performance of the AMD 7600X is a little higher than the 13600K with DDR5, it would be even more of a gap if it was DDR4.

AM5 Motherboard has 2 two more CPU generation upgradability, the Intel motherboard are end of line, so no more upgrade path.

AMD have just announced the ####X3D chips, which are going to be even better gaming CPU's but they are going to be much more expensive that the 7600X you were looking at, i'm assuming given your suggesting 13600K or 7600X that's the sort of budget you're looking at. So AMD have also announced the None X CPU's, these are cheaper than the X current X CPU's, they are the same CPU's clock slightly lower out of the box, 2 minutes in the BIOS will fix that, the 7600 None-X is $229, so £230, compared with £280 for the current 7600X, should be out in a few days and if you opt for one of those its will take the hurt out of the over priced DDR5 motherboards, a bit.

Scrap all of that ^^^^ i misread your post.

Looks like you want the best, go for the 7900X3D or 7950X3D.
 
Last edited:
OK guys

Im gonna dump my 10940x on my old X299 platform

Going for the AMD Ryzen 7950x or the 7950x3d if i have patience, i wonder if it will be long till it hits the shelves?

I have never owned an AMD chip before, Im not to experienced on this brand

Doin research on which mobo to get but i found somthing thats confusing

Theres 2 different versions

X670 and X670e and 2 versions of B650

Like which one am i focusing on, like which one is the best?

Please note that I previously chose X58 X99 to X299 for all my previous builds in the past decade because these had the most lanes, I use them for
my current Wifi6 PCIe adaptor card, AE9 Sound card as well as loads of drives (2xm.2 2xSSD 4x mechanical drives for storage)
 
you'll need to look at the finer stuff, you can get boards with wifi 6 built in but the cheaper lower boards if you start using up sata ports they might start disabling m.2 slots and reduce pcie x16 speed if using all m.2 slots look at the manual of the boards and look whats being disabled or reduced if you start populating M.2 slots, sata and pci slots

Have been looking at boards myself but I dont need to use any sata or pci slots so trying to find decent b650e the only x670e board I would consider is the one below

ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI can be had for around £364
check the manual if for example if you start using all sata ports and M.2 if anything gets disabled or reduced
 
Last edited:
uscool said:
you'll need to look at the finer stuff, you can get boards with wifi 6 built in but the cheaper lower boards if you start using up sata ports they might start disabling m.2 slots and reduce pcie x16 speed if using all m.2 slots look at the manual of the boards and look whats being disabled or reduced if you start populating M.2 slots, sata and pci slots

Have been looking at boards myself but I dont need to use any sata or pci slots so trying to find decent b650e the only x670e board I would consider is the one below

ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI can be had for around £364
check the manual if for example if you start using all sata ports and M.2 if anything gets disabled or reduced
Click to expand...
Ahh ok, so what board will be top end where it doesn't disable slots or reduce speeds, I hate it hat my current X299 Strix motherboard deactivates my last 2 PCIe slots if I add in a extra M.2

Would that be B650 boards with a higher price?
 
uscool said:
if primary gaming just wait see what 3D V-Cache 7000 is about I would be surprised if it doesnt take the gaming crown , and its the next product to be released , intel have 13900ks but doubt thats gonna be much better to what they currently have for gaming and it will use more power also with AMD will have option of zen5 and zen5 3d on the same socket
I might be tempted to jump on AM5 when 3D V-Cache is out for it but probably be at premium price :( guess we should find out next week
Click to expand...
what if intel announces some crazy powerful CPU that eats up 7000 series 3d v-cache in the next 2 days? never know what intel have up their secret sleeve...
 
hobib_ali said:
Ahh ok, so what board will be top end where it doesn't disable slots or reduce speeds, I hate it hat my current X299 Strix motherboard deactivates my last 2 PCIe slots if I add in a extra M.2

Would that be B650 boards with a higher price?
Click to expand...

wouldnt bother with b650 boards if you plan to populate it and board prices are all over the place. Id only buy what you need it for for you its using 4x m.2 and 4x sata ports without anything being disabled do you need more ? or you want another m.2 and 2 more sata ports and put in another £300 ? performance wise between boards you dont get anything

ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI , I cant seem to find any info if you have everything populated 4x m.2 two of these slots are gen 5 as well / 4x sata if it effects anything so I guess its fine but might have missed something

looking up AE9 Sound card it uses the x1 slot ? so you wouldnt be effected with the following
if you using device in PCIEX16_2 slot you have to reduce the GPU slot to x8
PCIEX16_1 Bandwidth Bifurcation Configuration
[Auto Mode] Auto-detect and switch. If PCIe device is inserted to PCIEX16_2,
switch PCIEX16_1 to x8. If no device is inserted to PCIEX16_2,
switch to PCIEX16_1 to x16.
[PCIE X16 Mode] Switch PCIEX16_1 to x16, and disable PCIEX16_2

check for yourself
 
Last edited:
uscool said:
wouldnt bother with b650 boards if you plan to populate it and board prices are all over the place
Click to expand...

Yeah, probably best to avoid B boards in general (Intel or AMD) if it is a priority to stuff the board with M.2 drives. This generation isn't great with SATA ports either, I think they're focusing on M.2 now, but the Z790 PG Riptide has 8 for some reason :o
 
hobib_ali said:
Ahh ok, so what board will be top end where it doesn't disable slots or reduce speeds, I hate it hat my current X299 Strix motherboard deactivates my last 2 PCIe slots if I add in a extra M.2

Would that be B650 boards with a higher price?
Click to expand...
All boards do this to some degree and it "$£" me off! Its does add options but it also highlights the lack of PCIe lanes.
For me, it was a choice between the ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO and ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING as I like ASUS boards. The X670E has 8 extra PCIe lanes over the B650E chipset, The X670E HERO also comes with lots of extras + more RGB if you like that stuff. I went for the B650E-E as its £300 cheaper and has what I want (4 m.2 slots, 2 are gen 5) but if using 2 gen 5 m.2's the GPU drops to 8x gen 5. I am happy with the B650E-E, its working very well but if price was not an issue, i would have gone with the X670E HERO, I just could not spend £650 on a board.
 
turbot1984 said:
I was a big fan, had a Skylake one, quite reasonable then but £680 now!! At least if you get an AM5 one it should last a good while?
Click to expand...
I have the X370 Hero with a 3900X in my old PC, It's been a great board over the last 5+ years and even added supports for the 5x CPU's. Its was good to be able to have 4 generation(1x, 2x, 3x and 5x) of drop-in CPU upgrades. I almost folded and got the X670 Hero as the last one was so good.
 
Last edited:
uscool said:
x
Click to expand...

uscool said:
wouldnt bother with b650 boards if you plan to populate it and board prices are all over the place. Id only buy what you need it for for you its using 4x m.2 and 4x sata ports without anything being disabled do you need more ? or you want another m.2 and 2 more sata ports and put in another £300 ? performance wise between boards you dont get anything

ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI , I cant seem to find any info if you have everything populated 4x m.2 two of these slots are gen 5 as well / 4x sata if it effects anything so I guess its fine but might have missed something

looking up AE9 Sound card it uses the x1 slot ? so you wouldnt be effected with the following
if you using device in PCIEX16_2 slot you have to reduce the GPU slot to x8
PCIEX16_1 Bandwidth Bifurcation Configuration
[Auto Mode] Auto-detect and switch. If PCIe device is inserted to PCIEX16_2,
switch PCIEX16_1 to x8. If no device is inserted to PCIEX16_2,
switch to PCIEX16_1 to x16.
[PCIE X16 Mode] Switch PCIEX16_1 to x16, and disable PCIEX16_2

check for yourself
Click to expand...

OK X670E looks like the latest AMD boards so gonna go for that, a lot of mobo to choose from, the thing is, my GPU will swallow from PCIe slot 1 all the way to PCIe slot 4, its a 4 slot card, so I need to check the PCIe slots on the mobo, if I can get a motherboard that
has 2 slots after the 4 slot fat GPU that would be ace, with regards to M.2 im only gonna have 2 installed, 2 SSd's and as many SATA mechnaical drives i can install for storage

Worst comes to worst I may have to cough up for a 2 bay synology and hook it up to my royuter, but thats only if I have no choice in terms of the lack of SATA ports on the new X670E motherboard,

oof, need to check the manuals to make sure nothing is deactivated if I use all the remaing


so the 2 chips ive slected is:

AMD RYZEN 9 7900X

or

AMD RYZEN 9 7950X

Which CPU would u guys go for?

no content creation, just gaming or shall i take a step down if it doesnt make a difference to the 7th gen,

I cant see the AMD refresh, the 3XD Cache chips
 
hobib_ali said:
OK X670E looks like the latest AMD boards so gonna go for that, a lot of mobo to choose from, the thing is, my GPU will swallow from PCIe slot 1 all the way to PCIe slot 4, its a 4 slot card, so I need to check the PCIe slots on the mobo, if I can get a motherboard that
has 2 slots after the 4 slot fat GPU that would be ace, with regards to M.2 im only gonna have 2 installed, 2 SSd's and as many SATA mechnaical drives i can install for storage

Worst comes to worst I may have to cough up for a 2 bay synology and hook it up to my royuter, but thats only if I have no choice in terms of the lack of SATA ports on the new X670E motherboard,

oof, need to check the manuals to make sure nothing is deactivated if I use all the remaing


so the 2 chips ive slected is:

AMD RYZEN 9 7900X

or

AMD RYZEN 9 7950X

Which CPU would u guys go for?

no content creation, just gaming or shall i take a step down if it doesnt make a difference to the 7th gen,

I cant see the AMD refresh, the 3XD Cache chips
Click to expand...

If its only for gaming I would strongly suggest waiting for x3d due in February so not long

7800x3d will out perform 7900x and 7950x in gaming and likely cost less and use less power
 
Last edited:
I also went with a X670E-F. Reason being the combination of price and the fact that there doesn’t seem to be any compromises when populating all the Nvme slots/SATA/main PCIE slot. It also has a pretty decent VRM specification.

Biggest gripe is a lack of code readout but so be it - I did look at the X670E-E, but it’s a massive amount of money and at that point you might as well go for the Hero. But I couldn’t see the point in spending another 250+ to get there over the Strix F. Plus the Hero really feels like it should have a backplate for the money it costs, and I think design wise it isn’t as good as Asus Intel offerings. I could live with the somewhat plainer Strix F when taking its price in to account.

Also waiting for the 7800x3d to go with it…
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom