There is a 50% gap that they need to close, and that's with slow 5600 ram. Imagine a 13900k running 8000 ram
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Ive upgraded CPU 3 times in 4 years, what to upgrade to now?
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How many games does it take for the cherrypicking to stop being cherrypicking? I can post dozens of them
Whats wrong with 720p?
Do you game at 720p?
It doesnt matter, the point of testing at 720p isnt to see how the cpu performs at 720p, its to see how the cpu performs without a gpu bottleneck. The resolution is irrelevant, it could be at 4k 8k or 16k assuming there is a gpu fast enough to not bottleneck your cpu at those resolutions.
Pointless question that's only asked when amd is losing. A guy above said the new 3ds will obliterate intel in gaming, you think he was talking about 4k?
It will be game dependent - Spiderman and to lesser extent CP2077 are outliers for Intel and not typical of the advantage of 12th/13th gen over Zen 4.
If all you play is Spiderman then sure no point looking at Zen 4 as even 3D cpu are not likely to bridge that gap, where intel only have a 5-15% lead its worth waiting for benchmarks.
Also worth mentioning is that if you are not very clued up about memory tuning and more of a XMP and forget person you can also pretty much ignore 7600 mems or above benchmarks.
If all you play is Spiderman then sure no point looking at Zen 4 as even 3D cpu are not likely to bridge that gap, where intel only have a 5-15% lead its worth waiting for benchmarks.
Also worth mentioning is that if you are not very clued up about memory tuning and more of a XMP and forget person you can also pretty much ignore 7600 mems or above benchmarks.
Good Morning just wondering who said new 3ds will obliterate intel in gaming ?
ok thought it was too me lol, just my guess but I think on average over number of games and I mean 30+ it should come out on top including lows by how much I dont know will have to wait for reviews cant wait for reviews and find out how they perform
I dont think they are outliers, i think the issue is the memory subsystem of amd is bad for some reason, so whatever games requires memory bandwidth - the gap gets huge.
Well the thing is, whether or not you think its gonna come on top depends on what you think the difference currently is between rpl and zen 4. Most reviews are probably gpu bound to hell or done in lighter scenes so they might come up with a 10% difference between 13900k and 7950x, in which case absolutely sure, the 3ds will come on top.
But im not convinced at all that the difference between them is actually 10%. From my testing, a maxed out 12900k @ 5.4 ghz with 6000c30 was losing by around 12 to15% compared to a stock 13900k with 7600c34 ram. I think we can both agree that said 12900k with that oc beats everything amd has right now, so its obvious to me that the difference between the 13900k and a zen 4 cannot be anywhere near 10%
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Spending on Intel 13th gen and that’s it. Won’t be, at least expected, any upgrade for that socket. The 13900 won’t become slow overnight. Soon or later will be faster CPUs but will be a while until it becomes obsolete, bottlenecking your GPU.
Same can be said for AM5. The advantage of AM5, at least for now, is: you’ll have few new CPUs being released for that socket. You could spend a bit more for a solid motherboard and get a 7600 and drop a new CPU next year or later. For most scenarios, a 7600 won’t bottleneck a GPU, unless artificially creating a bottleneck.
I can’t see any person spending nearly 2k on a GPU and playing at 720 or 1080p. Even if some unicorn does, at such low resolution, even the 7600 will be able to deliver hundreds of fps.
Same can be said for AM5. The advantage of AM5, at least for now, is: you’ll have few new CPUs being released for that socket. You could spend a bit more for a solid motherboard and get a 7600 and drop a new CPU next year or later. For most scenarios, a 7600 won’t bottleneck a GPU, unless artificially creating a bottleneck.
I can’t see any person spending nearly 2k on a GPU and playing at 720 or 1080p. Even if some unicorn does, at such low resolution, even the 7600 will be able to deliver hundreds of fps.
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I have a i9-10940X at the moment (core X) (DDR4 build with a 4090 getting bottleneck as fps doesnt match with ppl online on same specs)
I also have a Ryzen 5950X (given to me) (sadly DDr4
So on the 14th of February the 7950X3D is released
So i can shot the 109040X and the 5950X and bag a 7950X3D or get a 13900K i9 and add DDR5 (will need a mobo that doesnt restrict PCIe lanes if you max out SSD'd and storage drives)
My current X299 Strix Mobo has deactivated the last 2 PCie lanes because i dont want to lose my SSD's, so I had to dump my important sound card as I prioritised the last pcie lane for my wifi6 adaptor
so its either amd or intel and be done with it for 2-3 years,
ive always went for intel since X58 X99 X299 because of high number of PCIe lanes
Im leaned towards the 3dx but looking at charts the 13th gen intel beats amd, then ppl saying when 3dx is out it will smash intel
so its very hard to decide which route to go for
I have a i9-10940X at the moment (core X) (DDR4 build with a 4090 getting bottleneck as fps doesnt match with ppl online on same specs)
I also have a Ryzen 5950X (given to me) (sadly DDr4
So on the 14th of February the 7950X3D is released
So i can shot the 109040X and the 5950X and bag a 7950X3D or get a 13900K i9 and add DDR5 (will need a mobo that doesnt restrict PCIe lanes if you max out SSD'd and storage drives)
My current X299 Strix Mobo has deactivated the last 2 PCie lanes because i dont want to lose my SSD's, so I had to dump my important sound card as I prioritised the last pcie lane for my wifi6 adaptor
so its either amd or intel and be done with it for 2-3 years,
ive always went for intel since X58 X99 X299 because of high number of PCIe lanes
Im leaned towards the 3dx but looking at charts the 13th gen intel beats amd, then ppl saying when 3dx is out it will smash intel
so its very hard to decide which route to go for
whats the 7600? is that amd chip with 3dx
Regular Ryzen 7600, cheaper than the first launch of “X” variants. Few reviews around, run much cooler and are cheaper. Good buy for now, as won’t be a painful loss when selling later and upgrading for a faster CPU. The 7600X, 7700x, etc all allow to be capped at 65W too, but if I was to build now, I would possibly get a 350-400 pounds motherboard and the regular 7600 for under 230 pounds. And maybe next year, or later, upgrade. For most users, doesn’t make sense splash on the fastest CPU, unless making money with it or simply disregarding costs. Someone who wants to buy the best of the best may disagree, but take for example Intel 12th gen and 13th gen. Same socket. Someone who bought a very capable 12400 can upgrade to a 13600 if looking for value, or the 13900 later, when people rush to buy the very next shining CPU. But those who bought the 12900k, can buy a 13900k, but is quite a bitter pill to swallow the 13700k, performance/price compared to their shining 12900k.
Both the 13900k and the 7950x 3d will be great. I don't expect any smashing. There are specific games that the 3d cache helps a TON, so if you are playing any of those games the 3d (even the 7800x 3d) is a no brainer. If you don't play those games i think the 13900k will still be in the lead. Both will last you for way more than 2-3 years.
I wouldnt suggest either of them for gaming though, 13700k / 12900k / 7800x 3d should be plenty for that, no need to spend more money than that
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I don't think it will "smash" intel, it'll probably be a bit faster but if you like upgrading your CPUs often then you will have the option to do so without needing to also replace the board.