James Cameron's 'Avatar' - The next gen of cinema

I will need to watch the trailer in a proper cinema or IMAX before passing judgement. Though it looks pretty damn awesome on youtube. The only complaint I got is on some of the animations, not twitchy enough. And I think the colour of the avatar/pandoran skin is too light.
 
I thought it looked pretty poor. Obviously it's not in 3D and I will go and see it but I don't hold much hope for it.

Hopefully I'm wrong.
 
Trailer appears to summarise the entire plot (Titanic Meets Braveheart - in Space!!!") and 90% of the movie appears to be CGI ("paid for with the money we saved by not hiring a scriptwriter").

I won't be holding my breath for this one.
 
When people say this is made in 3D is it not meaning all of it is 3d CGI?

the human characters have a slightly plastic look about them
 
Evangelion said:
Trailer appears to summarise the entire plot (Titanic Meets Braveheart - in Space!!!") and 90% of the movie appears to be CGI ("paid for with the money we saved by not hiring a scriptwriter").

I won't be holding my breath for this one.
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Cameron is the scriptwriter (as you may know). Granted, a lot of CGI heavy movies suffer either because of the over-used effects or the lack of a script to go with it but this trailer is a breath of fresh air to me.

I love the look of all those colours and the bright vibrancy of the visuals. The cinematography at least looks totally different to the usual Transformers or District 9 type visuals.

Plus, I don't get why you say its in "space", when it clearly isn't.
 
Its not all cgi.

Was really looking forward to this when that teaser appeared a few years back, James cameron in space, sounds great.
However that trailer didn't grab me tbh, still i'll be off to the imax :)
 
Chimerical said:
Cameron is the scriptwriter (as you may know).
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:D

Granted, a lot of CGI heavy movies suffer either because of the over-used effects or the lack of a script to go with it but this trailer is a breath of fresh air to me. I love the look of all those colours and the bright vibrancy of the visuals. The cinematography at least looks totally different to the usual Transformers or District 9 type visuals.
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I just thought it looked completely plastic. Did they use a PS3 or something? Will there be skippable cut scenes? :p

Plus, I don't get why you say its in "space", when it clearly isn't.
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OK, just for the pedantic... it's on some remote planet called "Pandora" which is reached via space travel. In other words, it's based in outer space somewhere.
 
I've now watched the trailer a couple of times. Want to dissect it frame by frame but won't.
Looks incredible to me. I think it is extremely promising. There will always be people who what to belittle it but it is just a teaser with very small shots of images and scenes.

Just to imagine 3 hours of it on a screen 20mx26m in three dimensions
 
Evangelion said:
I just thought it looked completely plastic. Did they use a PS3 or something? Will there be skippable cut scenes? :p
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God will strike you down and give you AIDS.

OK, just for the pedantic... it's on some remote planet called "Pandora" which is reached via space travel. In other words, it's based in outer space somewhere.
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Not really. It's set on a planet. Planets happen to be in space. Earth is a planet in space for example. Are films set on Earth also somehow set in space?

No, they are not. :)
 
Watch HD trailer guys. It looks very plastic. Looks very 8 years ago. Very SW Ep 1. Clean, plastic, rendered for graphic card box picture. The scene where the guy rolls out of the ship onto the planet - it's like game cut scene. It even has motion blur applied. If it wasn't for good antialiasing and someone said it was from Crysis 2 it would fit perfectly. The aliens are just too plastic. Face mimics are way off, motion movement is overdone - many characters almost move like jar jar binks, body flow is odd and flexes like a dancing baby from 3d max demos. Looks like another director has finally lost that all necessary ability to judge what's well rendered and what's not.

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Come on... game or what?
 
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v0n said:
Watch HD trailer guys.
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I did. 1080p on a HP LP2475w. Can't really get much better than that. (Well I can't money-wise anyway).

It looks very plastic. Looks very 8 years ago. Very SW Ep 1. Clean, plastic, rendered for graphic card box picture. The scene where the guy rolls out of the ship onto the planet - it's like game cut scene. It even has motion blur applied. If it wasn't for good antialiasing and someone said it was from Crysis 2 it would fit perfectly. The aliens are just too plastic. Face mimics are way off, motion movement is overdone - many characters almost move like jar jar binks, body flow is odd and flexes like a dancing baby from 3d max demos. Looks like another director has finally lost that all necessary ability to judge what's well rendered and what's not.
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Whilst I'm not being stupid, I agree that the Mech looks very cartoony and low res, I'm starting to wonder if the look of this film is intentional. I mean, its a $190 million movie with some of the world's top effects houses working on it under James Cameron and maybe its supposed to look like you're in a cartoony videogame? Or maybe its something to do with the 3D technology?

The only thing I can't work out is why some of the trailer does look photoreal (i.e. the floating mountains and the spaceship) yet the rest doesn't.

Maybe you are right and Cameron's lost it or their resources were stretched too thin, there wasn't enough time and stuff got rushed, etc.

But I dunno, I love that trailer and it's just so different to what I'm used to seeing that even if the CGI is unintentionally cartoony, I'll lap it all up anyway.

This movie bares more comparisons with Disney Pixar (i.e. Finding Nemo) works in some respects then it does with a film like Transformers (visually). However, I like that aspect of it and I like the fake looking blue Navi creatures and all the gaudy colours.

I'm in two minds about it, I recognise that a lot of people will not like the look of this movie so that's not good obviously but I personally do like it.
 
wow the hd footage looks awesome i have also been keeping my eye on this movie honestly i cant wait for it to come out me and the gf will def go watch it in the cinema.
 
To me this looks absolutely unreal, and just watching the images as they appear on my screen make me excited for what is to come. It's a whole new world, an introduction into a land we know nothing about. It's like Star wars, LoTR.

Not to mention having James Cameron one of the most prolific and gifted Script writers/Directors.

Some of the scenes do look a little cartoony, but this film is meant to utilize 3D for the technology it is and not just use 3d as a Gimic.

I'll be buying my ticket, sitting down, putting on those 3d glasses and I believe I'll be transformed into a movie in ways I've never known before. We've all been burned by the travesty of the Star Wars prequels and Transformers reliance on Special effects rather than substance, but this time, just looking at that trailer and thinking about Aliens, Terminator, Titanic, Abyss I think we will be about to watch something special.

I can't wait for December, it's going to be one good Xmas.
 
Evangelion said:
Trailer appears to summarise the entire plot (Titanic Meets Braveheart - in Space!!!") and 90% of the movie appears to be CGI ("paid for with the money we saved by not hiring a scriptwriter").

I won't be holding my breath for this one.
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It's 100% CGI, that's the point isn't it?
Edit: Apparently not :p

Although, surely watching a film trailer designed entirely to be watched in 3d is useless on a regular screen?
 
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