January Transfer Window 2012/2013 Season Rumours/Signings
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If he'd of been given the time/games Torres has had he would have scored a lot I reckon. But it's reputation over name in this instance. He'd do well at another club who'll play him.
Indeed, I don't think he will become some amazing forward (although I'd like to see him prove me wrong, as I would any footballer in that situation to be honest) but I think until something changes at Chelsea he needs to move away.
Liverpool would be a good move, but not for £15 million. He would thrive at any mid table Premier League club that would give him game time to be honest.
In a generation that such players as Rodwell, Milner, Downing, Moses, Rhodes (near enough), Henderson, Johnson's clubs all have demanded transfer fees of over 10m, Sturridge's price is fair. I'm sure if Man U sold Welbeck they'd certainly demand a similar fee.
Oh don't get me wrong, I think those fee's were all too much too. This is where English football shoots itself in the foot, why buy a young player like Sturridge for £15 million, who could go either way, when you could bring in a more talented / established player from outside England for similar or spend less on a youngster who could go either way too.
This is going to sound mental, but because a player is sold for XX doesn't mean he's worth XX it's just that he was valued at XX. I'm not straying in to Modric is worth £40 million here, just that for Sturridge a 'fair' price would be half that which is quoted, but he's English, Young and the market is inflated too, Chelsea would be selling him to a rival for a Champions League place too (that is where Liverpool should be aiming) which will all bump the fee up.
Which is kind of what I said
The only way to pick up these players (English, talented and young) is to go picking the cream of the crop from lower leagues or pick on a club who need the money.
£15m and £150k per week for a player that's past his best and in our current system, isn't likely to get in our first 11?
If he massively cut his wages and we could get him for sub £10m, he'd be worth a punt but given what he's produced over the last couple of years it's far too big a gamble for anything more.
Even if you ignored the premium for him being English/EPL proven, it's not an extreme value. He's far from a bad player, relatively proven at a decent level and at a very good age. It wouldn't be that easy to get somebody notably better than him from abroad for much less.
That said, if we did go for him I'd hope it'd be closer to £10m.
edit: Another player we've been linked with over the last few days is a return for Tom Ince. He's supposed to be doing incredibly well for Blackpool (I've not paid too much attention tbh) but watching him in the same youth/reserve sides as Suso & Sterling, despite being a couple of years older he didn't even look half the player as either of them.
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Everton or Newcastle?
Sorry, thought you finished fifth last year. Should check my facts before I go on the wind up.
He would be a massive gamble even at 5-8 million quid, unfortunately for a lot of Liverpool fans they see how unhappy he looks playing for chelsea and they get all dewy eyed.
Torres is done as a top class footballer, not only has he lost that pace that enabled him to burst past defenders but mentally he is shot. There is only 1 manager that could get him back to being any good again, and thats the manager that turned him into a world class striker in the 1st place.
No not really, I revel in his failure at Chelsea and the massive waste of money he has been, I've always wanted him back as I believe him and Liverpool click, he didn't all of a sudden lose all his ability when he went to Chelsea.
Like I said dewy eyed
Seriously though, injuries have taken his pace and mentally he just looks done. I'm sure people at chelsea (and the media) have thought he would go on and recapture his previous form once he scored a couple of times in a run of games, but then he just retreats into his shell and looks like a league 2 striker.He is ranked along side Owen for me, wouldn't want him back.
Edit - Would he really be like he was, even without the injuries and mental issues? Afterall he isn't going to have the team built around him again is he. And take his Liverpool career out the equation he is a 1 in 3 striker pretty much
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Our biggest problem is putting away the chances we create and Sturridge's biggest problem is putting away the chances others create for him. Young, fast but an abysmal finisher that I wouldn't take for any more than £5 million. Hope to hell this doesn't happen.
Like I said dewy eyed
He is ranked along side Owen for me, wouldn't want him back.
Edit - Would he really be like he was, even without the injuries and mental issues? Afterall he isn't going to have the team built around him again is he. And take his Liverpool career out the equation he is a 1 in 3 striker pretty much
Not really dewy eyed.
Certain clubs work out for certain players, Torres is just another example.
Who knows, he could be better than he was, he could be worse but still a very very good striker. It is worth the gamble considering how damn good he was for us. Certainly better than Sturridge.
He seemed lethal when he went to Bolton on loan though. Not sure what happened to him, but the rot seemed to set in as soon as he went back to Chelsea.
I think it was more a case of Rafa/Torres than Liverpool/Torres personally. I don't think Sturridge is the answer though, bit worrying that the Sturridge/Walcott rumors seem to not go away.
All sorts of nonsense making it's way into todays papers. Jeffren, Torres and Sturridge. Only keen on Torres and for nothing more than £10-£12 million. He'd have to take a huge hit on his wages now aswell.
We're crying out for a Defoe. Someone to just put the ball in the net and get on the end of chances.
We're crying out for a Defoe. Someone to just put the ball in the net and get on the end of chances.
Except Defoe isn't all that great at finishing. When Spurs came to us Defoe squandered so many chances it was almost unbearable to watch (I like Defoe, he's Jermasing), just think he's a funny player for everyone to be wanting a clone of...
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Defoe = Head down and hit the ball as hard as possible.
He's an excellent finisher when he wants to be but most of the time he just smacks it. Another don't want player.
He's an excellent finisher when he wants to be but most of the time he just smacks it. Another don't want player.
