Japanese Grand Prix 2010, Suzuka - Race 16/19

People like Hamilton (who are very fast at pressing buttons) should be able to eek out a little extra during qualifying and the races with the extra buttons/adjustments available..

How exactly do you know Hamilton is faster at button pressing than anyone else?

I'd like to see some evidence that leads to you thinking he can push buttons faster than Alonso MS or Button.

+1 for the manual gear selection again. Atleast let them have the chance to select the wrong gear.
 
How exactly do you know Hamilton is faster at button pressing than anyone else?

I'd like to see some evidence that leads to you thinking he can push buttons faster than Alonso MS or Button.

+1 for the manual gear selection again. Atleast let them have the chance to select the wrong gear.

This.

On another topuc... didnt Alonso lose 2nd or 3rd gear in Malaysia or somethng this year? Despite that he was able at one point to nearly overtake Button...
 
How exactly do you know Hamilton is faster at button pressing than anyone else?

I made some points regarding this last year.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15129734&postcount=1105

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13969948&postcount=876

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13967907&postcount=848

In a nutshell, Hamilton loves to play playstation/computer games. This is very good for hand eye co-ordination. The more buttons which the driver has to press while in the car, will play into the hands of those who have good hand-eye co-ordination. My belief is that this was the reason why Hamilton was the guy who made best use out of KERS, when it was around. Remember, 2 other World Champions had access to KERS (Alonso and Kimi)...Hamilton was by far and away the best at extracting the maximum out of this.

With Hamilton, the more buttons you give him to press, the greater the margin I expect him to pull out.

If they do include movable wings AND KERS next year, watch Hamilton go. I expect the gap between Hamilton and Button to be greater in 2011 than in 2010, for this reason alone.
 
The use of Kers isn't about how fast you can press a button but knowing when to press the button and how to handle the resulting boost in power.

It's insulting to Hamilton to suggest he got the best out of the Kers system because he was good at pressing buttons.
 
In order to be good at computer games, hand eye co-ordination is crucial. The ability to press/select buttons is crucial. Perhaps this is only obvious to me or perhaps some of you don't play computer games.

In any case, we shall see what happens next year. My prediction, providing we get KERS back and also movable wings, Hamilton should have a bigger margin of superiority over Button than we have seen this year. In Nov 2011, we shall know if I was wrong or right.
 
In any case, we shall see what happens next year. My prediction, providing we get KERS back and also movable wings, Hamilton should have a bigger margin of superiority over Button than we have seen this year. In Nov 2011, we shall know if I was wrong or right.

But what if Button gets call of duty, Hamilton could be in trouble ;)
 
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Just for some illustration of what F1 drivers are doing in the cockpit these days.
 
In a nutshell, Hamilton loves to play playstation/computer games. This is very good for hand eye co-ordination. The more buttons which the driver has to press while in the car, will play into the hands of those who have good hand-eye co-ordination.

With Hamilton, the more buttons you give him to press, the greater the margin I expect him to pull out.

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Lol

So If I play on keyboard you would expect me to be even better than hamilton and his 8 button play station?

Thats hilarious, you think Hamilton is the only one who plays games?

Hamilton was better than the others with Kers simply because he had the best of 4 bad systems. BMW and Renault more of less gave up with theirs and Ferraris was far from trouble free.

Mclarens was the best of a bad lot and that gave Hamilton the grand job of beating Heikki.

Best get MS a sinclair 16 and a kempston joystick for next season if he wants to compete with the kids at playstation :D

I expect Hamilton to best Button next year with Kers because he's had a season playing around with it, not because he plays playstation.
 
In order to be good at computer games, hand eye co-ordination is crucial. The ability to press/select buttons is crucial. Perhaps this is only obvious to me or perhaps some of you don't play computer games.

In any case, we shall see what happens next year. My prediction, providing we get KERS back and also movable wings, Hamilton should have a bigger margin of superiority over Button than we have seen this year. In Nov 2011, we shall know if I was wrong or right.

I thought moveable wings are already in this season? :confused:

And also as was mentioned earlier. KERS is not about who presses the button quickest/reflex related. Its about using it at the right place at the right time.

Also...

sunama said:
In a nutshell, Hamilton loves to play playstation/computer games. This is very good for hand eye co-ordination.
(yes couldnt help myself to read the rest :P)
It seems his good "hand eye co-ordination" was not enough to take avoiding action pertaining to the 3 incidents he was involved in :D
 
I thought moveable wings are already in this season? :confused:

Pressing 1 button (or dealing with 1 task), at a time, is not difficult.
Pressing 2 buttons (or dealing with 2 tasks), at a time, is not difficult.
However, if you have 10-20 buttons (or 10-20 tasks) to deal with at a time, all of sudden things get difficult.

The ability to multi task and to hit buttons fast with little thinking time, becomes important. The more buttons you have to operate in a corner or a lap, the greater the chance of making an error.

KERS will be an additional task which the driver shall need to deal with if it is introduced.

If you go back to the mid-90s (and earlier), steering wheels were simple and all the driver had to do was steer, brake, change gear and press the throttle (and maybe a clutch). I believe brake bias could also be altered. These days, the driver has to do all those things and a whole lot more. Hand eye co-ordination has become much more of a factor in F1 than it was 20 years ago.

And also as was mentioned earlier. KERS is not about who presses the button quickest/reflex related. Its about using it at the right place at the right time.

As I said above, if you have many tasks or operations to deal with during the course of a corner, you are more likely to make an error. A person who has good hand eye co-ordination and is used to memorising button locations/sequences will find this easier than someone who isn't used doing this.

Computer games involving fast key presses improve your hand eye co-ordination.

It seems his good "hand eye co-ordination" was not enough to take avoiding action pertaining to the 3 incidents he was involved in :D

Unfortunately, no amount of buttons or key presses can save Hamilton, when he is already in the middle of an accident. ;)
 
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In order to be good at computer games, hand eye co-ordination is crucial. The ability to press/select buttons is crucial. Perhaps this is only obvious to me or perhaps some of you don't play computer games.

In any case, we shall see what happens next year. My prediction, providing we get KERS back and also movable wings, Hamilton should have a bigger margin of superiority over Button than we have seen this year. In Nov 2011, we shall know if I was wrong or right.

lol you come out with some corkers

And driving in car that does 200mph and that can generate 5 + g in the corners doesnt ?
 
Massa was doing pretty well with KERS also until a slice of Barichellos car bonked him on the noggin don't forget! (but I'm certain the KERS button won't have a Ferrari logo on it for him next season :))
 
Pressing 1 button (or dealing with 1 task), at a time, is not difficult.
Pressing 2 buttons (or dealing with 2 tasks), at a time, is not difficult.
However, if you have 10-20 buttons (or 10-20 tasks) to deal with at a time, all of sudden things get difficult.

The ability to multi task and to hit buttons fast with little thinking time, becomes important. The more buttons you have to operate in a corner or a lap, the greater the chance of making an error.

KERS will be an additional task which the driver shall need to deal with if it is introduced.

If you go back to the mid-90s (and earlier), steering wheels were simple and all the driver had to do was steer, brake, change gear and press the throttle (and maybe a clutch). I believe brake bias could also be altered. These days, the driver has to do all those things and a whole lot more. Hand eye co-ordination has become much more of a factor in F1 than it was 20 years ago.

The above response was to my simple question.

I thought moveable wings are already in this season? :confused:

Which I was expecting either a "yes they are or no they're not".

sunama said:
As I said above, if you have many tasks or operations to deal with during the course of a corner, you are more likely to make an error. A person who has good hand eye co-ordination and is used to memorising button locations/sequences will find this easier than someone who isn't used doing this.

Computer games involving fast key presses improve your hand eye co-ordination.

You are assuming that just because a person plays video games he must have good hand/eye coordination. Do you know just how good Hamilton is at videogames? True videogames may improve his hand/eye coordination, but who knows, maybe your reflexes are better than his ? :)
Using video games as a metric for hand eye coordination is not necessarily an accurate way to ascertain the individuals reflexes. Furthermore just because there are others on the grid who do not play video games, doesnt necessarily suggest that they are at a disadvantage in any shape or form. E.g. Button, who may have naturally high reflexes without the need to improve them via other means such as videogames?


sunama said:
Unfortunately, no amount of buttons or key presses can save Hamilton, when he is already in the middle of an accident. ;)

True but according to you, his reflexes should be good, which means he could have driven defensively/taken avoiding action? :p
 
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