Poll: Japanese Grand Prix 2022, Suzuka Circuit - Race 18

Rate the Japan Grand Prix out of ten

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Bug One said:
It was better than Spa last year, which it could have easily become.

I do think the full wet tyres need fixing for next season. There is no way an intermediate tyre should be faster than a full wet, when it's fully wet.
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Yeah they were talking to Isola (the Pirelli Director) who was basically explaining that the wet is a "survival tyre" with no real pace, and moaned that teams didn't want to help with wet weather tyre testing hence the lack of any development, hard to argue with the teams when we seem like we're not allowed to run in the rain much anymore.
 
Voted 8 out of 10.

Alpine got nicely back into 4th
Race was entertaining.
Main thing is I watched highlights. So didn't have to sit through all the faff.

If I was rating on FIA etc. Probably a 2/10!

Max by far best driver this year. Very few mistakes. Unlike Leclerc. He's been good. But max deserved the title for sure.


I wonder for alonso's sanity next year. If Aston don't perform. Especially if alpine build on this momentum.
Not particularly excited by gasley coming in. Really would have rathered NDV. Would have made it exciting.

Kind of hope alpine get punished by being Conservative with thier drivers. Want some new blood!
 
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I wonder if Alonso announcing so early means he'll get plenty of design/balance input into next years Aston.

The Alpine has been fast on the straights all season and it's done them well overall. I'd imagine Alonso would want to maintain that balance next season.
 
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Mr Jack said:
They won't pull out though. Not after this year. Max is WCC, Pérez may well secure 2nd, RB are WCCs. Red Bull have pulled off utter domination, and should expect to go into next year as clear favourites and keep an advantage until 2026.
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If they have had a major breach of the cost cap that would have given them an advantage not only last year but going into this year and possibly next.
But will have to wait until the FIA disclose
 
Voted a 3 since, for me, it was a dull race.
Not a Max fan at all, but he's been lightyears ahead of the competition and a much better driver this year than he was in previous years, so a much deserved win imho.
 
Bug One said:
I do think the full wet tyres need fixing for next season.
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I'm posting this without reference any sort of image of an F1 car, but why don't they bring in full wet tyres that include a mudguard? It'll look daft but it'd give us proper wet racing. I'm sure the teams can come up with a contraption that gets mudguard on/off without 5secs or something! Make a rule that says you can't run the full wet tyre without them (obviously).
 
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I'm posting this without reference any sort of image of an F1 car, but why don't they bring in full wet tyres that include a mudguard? It'll look daft but it'd give us proper wet racing. I'm sure the teams can come up with a contraption that gets mudguard on/off without 5secs or something! Make a rule that says you can't run the full wet tyre without them (obviously).
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I think the issue with that is it just puts the water back on track instead of dissipating it when they want the track to dry out.
 
Scam said:
Good point. Maybe they put big buckets behind the wheels to catch it? Extra points for who carries the most water home? :D
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I think they should install massive fans all the way around the circuit at a height that doesn't affect the cars but high enough to blow the water away once it's been kicked up. If its near a stand, they get reduced ticket prices and a complementary poncho.
 
Teams in procedural breach of cost cap: Aston Martin. incorrect filing

Teams in procedural and minor overspend breach of cost cap: Red Bull. with a minor overspend under 5%

FIA are now discussing penalties
 
AlphariusOmegan said:
Teams in procedural breach of cost cap: Aston Martin. incorrect filing

Teams in procedural and minor overspend breach of cost cap: Red Bull. with a minor overspend under 5%
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Cynic in me says - after some behind the scenes discussions hence the delay. I really wouldn't be shocked to find out it was more than the 'minor' $7.5 Million (seriously that is not small) but Red Bull did their usual threats of leaving etc.

I can already see the outcome... nothing done to Williams and Aston Martin and Red Bull loses their 'constructors points' from last year... second place doesn't mean much anyway. Maybe a fine which is not part of the budgets for following year.

Makes it look like FIA have done something but in reality it doesn't affect the outcome of last years championship or this one (even though Red Bull have basically cheated) and allows F1 owners to keep the focus on Max Verstappen for a few more seasons... all for the 'show' of course.
 
It'll be interesting to hear how close to the 5% limit for the 'minor' infraction they are. That's still possibly a whopping $7.25m.

If other teams really did have to lay off staff to meet the cap, then the FIA should throw the book at Red Bull for disregarding it.
 
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GravyMonster said:
It'll be interesting to hear how close to the 5% limit for the 'minor' infraction they are. That's still possibly a whopping $7.25m.

If other teams really did have to lay off staff to meet the cap, then the FIA should throw the book at Red Bull for disregarding it.
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That’s just a couple of wing mirrors or something, it’s fine apparently… :o
 
GravyMonster said:
It'll be interesting to hear how close to the 5% limit for the 'minor' infraction they are. That's still possibly a whopping $7.25m.

If other teams really did have to lay off staff to meet the cap, then the FIA should throw the book at Red Bull for disregarding it.
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Explains all the upgrades they were bringing. I love that they’ve tried to minimise it by calling it ‘minor’. RB will get away with it, they always do and they have the leg up on these regs as a result. F1 really is in a sorry state.
 
I gave this one 7/10 if judged by the racing itself, I just FFWD passed the boring stoppages.

Perez stalking LeClerc and Hamilton over Ocon was such close racing.

It's all over shadowed by Red Bull.. I am sure all teams push the boundaries of budgets but no surprise Red Bull are whining when the rumour mill started. I'd like more info because on the surface the "up to" $7.5M is more than enough for a couple of upgrades and you have to say they probably wouldn't have won the championship, however, I would not want it reversed, but I most certainly would strip them of the championship this year and penalise them with a cost cap reduction next year.

But I suspect slap on the wrist and then watch the backlash and FIA implode..
 
I gave it 4/10. I was expecting it to be great, but just like in the last race, these cars still simply cannot pass each other without DRS (unless there is a big performance gulf). It is just maddening watching the battles like Lewis/Ocon and Perez/Leclerc.

I think the new regs have done mostly **** all to help the racing.
 
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I think what may help is the return to the ERS 'push to use' approach rather than team controlled as it is now... this way the drivers still end up with the boost but its deployed by the driver only and could lead some interesting situations where a driver uses it in different locations causing the defending car to use it not in the most appropriate place... may lead to better outcomes?
 
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