Red Bull laid off over 50 people due to the budget cap changes, so just as many if not more than other teams, I have multiple friends who work there (wasn't a pleasant time for anyone I imagine, in any teams affected).
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Poll: Japanese Grand Prix 2022, Suzuka Circuit - Race 18
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Red Bull laid off over 50 people due to the budget cap changes, so just as many if not more than other teams, I have multiple friends who work there (wasn't a pleasant time for anyone I imagine, in any teams affected).
Caporegime
I've seen former Red Bullers on Twitter angry that Red Bull laid off staff to meet the cap and still didn't.
It’s definitely a less than ideal situation for all involved.
I still haven’t decided how I feel about a cap. On one hand it completely makes sense, on the other F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of engineering and motorsport and I quite liked that people could pursue excellence at all costs. I find the machines themselves just as fascinating as the racing.
Not that it matters now, as there is a cap, so it’s end of really.
Yeah I actually agree with that. But other sports have had problems with unlimited funds haven't they? Don't the big US sports have salary caps? F1 is probably worse than other sports in that more money = much bigger difference on the track. Whereas for example you can spend XX on a footballer but it doesn't guarantee you the wins.
Yeah, American sports use a more complex cap structure, which includes players wages etc too. I do like the draft system they implement though, the two systems work in tandem quite well to keep things relatively level, within reason anyway. Suppose it’s slightly different as they’re mostly on field/court teams, whereas F1 is unique, in that it’s huge teams behind the scenes but with only 2 drivers actually on track (and mechanics I suppose).
It’s a difficult one for this type of motorsports for sure, I’m torn. I mainly just miss huge V10 engines though really.
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Soldato
I'd imagine there would be quite a shake-up if drivers wages were part of the F1 cost cap.
To penalize Redbull for going over by giving only penalties to damage them financially, is the very definition of pay to win. It completely brings the sport into disrepute and is unacceptable on so many levels. The whole point in the budget cap is then written off and it sticks the proverbial middle finger up to any teams that came in under the cap. The very core of F1 is broken then. The FIA are not fit for purpose.
The top teams would barely have enough left over to participate in a soapbox race.
This. Financial penalties to breaking the budget cap are clearly stupid and illogical.
IF all they get is a fine, why wouldnt the teams with endless money like Merc and Ferrari just make sure they only break the budget cap by under 5% and then just take the fine.
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Soldato
And that is why I will stop watching f1 altogether if fia do not apply to correct penalty
Soldato
The brown envelope to Masi.Has anyone posted which payment took them over the cap and survived a ban?
I'm going to laugh when they announce a fine of like £1 million or something like that. Red Bull will be like: "lol, we made far more than that by winning the championship two years in a row".
Soldato
If Redbull and AM accept the judgement, as far as I'm aware points can't be docked - so the only punishments are fines (I'm assuming a decent amount, but still - yes not massively damaging for a company like RB) and missed "events" but these can't include races. So free practice basically?
Caporegime
This isn't correct. The ABA rules don't allow for it, but the panel can decide whether or not to allow an ABA to be used.
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Soldato
Please...
Caporegime
Soldato
That's what the OT thread is for. This race weekend is done.
Don
It doesn't need closing, but if you aren't discussing the Japanese Race weekend, then this isn't the thread for you - try https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/motorsport-off-topic-thread.18358463 instead
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