Jehovahs Witnesses
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They're imposing their belief on someone though, isn't that rule number 7 or something.
I answered the door wearing a Marilyn Manson tshirt, holding a big knife (I was making breakfast) in one hand and my dog in the other, needless to say they haven't been back since.
You'd think they'd have better things to do with their weekends, like rig up a live wire to their doorbell.
When I was jobless I accidently answered the door once, they wouldn't leave me alone for months, finally I said I'd slept with the neighbours wife and they left me alone
I answered the door wearing a Marilyn Manson tshirt, holding a big knife (I was making breakfast) in one hand and my dog in the other, needless to say they haven't been back since.
You'd think they'd have better things to do with their weekends, like rig up a live wire to their doorbell.
When I was jobless I accidently answered the door once, they wouldn't leave me alone for months, finally I said I'd slept with the neighbours wife and they left me alone
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The Watchtower cult being gods only mouthpiece and that their predictions constantly fail (for example Zion's Watchtower, January 15, 1892, p. 1
), and that despite the Bible saying that one should kill all prophets who falsely predict things, no one did.
Also on top of the usual nonsense that Jesus supposedly was not only magic and the son of God in the first place as most normal Christians think, but he came back in 1914, only no one could see him because they didn't have magic eyes or something.
There are loads of things the Watchtower cult that controls JW's have gotten wrong time and time again, but as with most cults, try telling that to its victims, even when you can demonstrate it with proof.
In my experience Witness' have a very insular and limited view of scripture. Their beliefs are theirs and they have every right to them, however until they free themselves from their council they will simply become more and more obselete in their interpretation of Christianity, if they are not already.
I have the dubious honour of being responsible for converting two JW, one to agnosticism and the other chose Baptist Christianity.
I simply discussed the bible, their beliefs, their churches beliefs and over a quite a few visits we had some very interesting discussions on scripture, comparative religion and the differences berween the many interpretations of Christianity.
How their former friends treated them however leaves much to be desired.
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They think anyone who isn't a JW a servant of Satan, they're barmy.
They don't believe that, but they do have some rather questionable interpretations of Scripture and even when this is pointed out to them and they are shown why and how they are mistaken they generally repeat verbatim watchtower dogma, which for me at least, proves that they are not believers, but followers.
Because they are of a Millennial doctrine they do however believe that we are nearing, if not already witnessing the End of Days.
Nope do tell
Do you know what impose means? Clearly not
Hahaha I love this! When people try to prove us wrong they quote some insanely obscure sentence from something printed over a 100 years ago! Where does the Bible say that Christians should kill false prophets?
What have we predicted?
We have never claimed Jesus was magic, I'm not even very sure what that means to be honest. Jesus' return in 1914 was not a physical return on earth, and we have never said nobody could see him because we don't have "magic eyes". Do you know what a cult is? If so explain how we are one. Victims? Who? Of what?
Lmao I have no idea who you think you converted. To leave the JW faith and join a Christendom church implies that you have proven the teaches the following:
1. God and Jesus are the same
2. We go to heaven or hell when we die
3. You can give a better explanation for why God permits suffering
Among other things. I'd LOVE for you to show evidence of this. In fact, try to convert me.
No we don't, and we have never made that claim.
What is questionable about our interpritation of Scripture? Can I have some examples.. I'd love to clear these up..
The Watchtower is 100% Bible based, it is no more a replacement to the Bible than glasses are to eyeballs. The Watchtower is simply in place to enhance our understanding of the Bible. We are followers, you are right, of Jesus and his father, Jehovah.
We are in the Last Days. Biblical teaching proves this.
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This reply simply illustrates what I was stating.
Not all Christian Churches believe in the trinity, you would have to have a very narrow knowledge of Christianity to assume such, however the chap in question felt that the specific Baptist Church he now attends fitted his personal beliefs better than the Jehovah Witness doctrine, whether he has accepted a trinitarian interpretation is not for me to say, however the church he joined are very open about their beliefs and welcome those with different views on scripture and I think that is what he was looking for.
There is plenty of Scriptural references, especially in the Gospel of John as to Christ's Divinity and I am also fully aware of the various (and there are many even if the believers are relatively few) non-trinitarian arguments and interpretations, of which Jehovah Witnesses are but one.
I am not here to convert you to anything, if you wish to discuss scripture in a free and open manner I am willing to do so, the two people I referred to chose their own path, they came to me, not the other way around.
Be aware that I am not a member of any church, I am not a Christian. I am however very well versed in a number of religions and belief systems as many here will attest to, so if you wish to begin a thread on whatever religious topic you like (I would suggest the SC sub-forum) I would be happy to debate it with you.
The main issue most Academics have is with the translation of the Bible itself, the New World Translation uses many insertions, contextual deletions and additions as well as inaccuracy in the Hebrew and Greek translations. The Academic consensus is that the NWT is a largely inaccurate contextually (although it is an accurate translation in many other ways) due to inherent bias and as the Governing Body have refused to supply Academia with the relevant names, qualifications and processes of the people who translated and compiled it, that position remains.
How does the scripture teach that we are currently in the Last Days as you put it?
My issue with your Society is their practice of dis-fellowship and your blind obedience to the "Governing Body" and the authoritarian removal of personal rights. I don't think that the practice of dis-fellowship was something that is taught by Biblical Scripture, I have heard various unconvincing justifications for it, but maybe you can give us your version?
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Probably best keeping it to yourself that you're a hoover to be honest, especially if you need a bloods transfusion.
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