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mrk said:
How so? The evidence supporting facts side more often with left leaning outlets/people, the same cannot be said for the right, and in terms of right leaning commentators on social media/forums etc, this is even more the case where evidence is either dismissed or ignored. in favour of a belief, or a link to a known CT outlet/author. If you can point out where I've done that here then I'm all eyes. I've acknowledged that there are exceptions, but the vast majority of the right are this way inclined. You can't point fingers at someone for simply highlighting an observable fact, it's not a matter of opinion or a belief, it is something you can literally see and hear every day from such a group of people, again, not all... but the vast majority. The same people are then suddenly absent in threads where there is no way to positively amplify their views, take the trump thread as a prime example, the guy is beyond saving, and the usual names have been magically missing from showing their support for a while now, yet still taking part in other threads where they still have a margin to debate with.

Case in point, all of the previous stuff being debated about in this thread.

I suspect you have read my post out of the wider context.

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It reads like a biased view point.
 
If by bias you mean siding with one side because it has actual bodies of evidence to back up a statement vs the opposite side that doesn't and sides more on the notion that they believe xyz is wrong, but cannot actually prove it, then sure.

I'm not out to convince anyone in particular, I say things as I observe them. Take it or leave it doesn't bother me, seems most sensible folks have the articulation to be able to see the same observations too and raise rational questions, whilst the rest remain pointing fingers and calling names.
 
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If by bias you mean siding with one side because it has actual bodies of evidence to back up a statement vs the opposite side that doesn't and sides more on the notion that they believe xyz is wrong, but cannot actually prove it, then sure.

I'm not out to convince anyone in particular, I say things as I observe them. Take it or leave it doesn't bother me, seems most sensible folks have the articulation to be able to see the same observations too and raise rational questions, whilst the rest remain pointing fingers and calling names.
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Literally no one has called you a name, seems your not so observant.
 
mrk said:
If by bias you mean siding with one side because it has actual bodies of evidence to back up a statement vs the opposite side that doesn't and sides more on the notion that they believe xyz is wrong, but cannot actually prove it, then sure.

I'm not out to convince anyone in particular, I say things as I observe them. Take it or leave it doesn't bother me, seems most sensible folks have the articulation to be able to see the same observations too and raise rational questions, whilst the rest remain pointing fingers and calling names.
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Following the evidence would seem smart, following the money is usually smarter.

The below would be an example of why following the evidence isn't always smart, we should always question the evidence where large amounts of profit and money are concerned.

www.nytimes.com

How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat (Published 2016)

Newly discovered documents show that the sugar industry paid scientists in the 1960s to shape the debate around heart disease, sugar and fat.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
I don't know what or who to believe. But I took the first two jabs in 2021 which was the AstraZeneca vaccine and after a couple of days with a sore arm felt fine. But the 3rd which was a Pfizer one in early 2022 and something was off from the bat and my heart did not feel right and suddenly felt 20 years older. If I did anything more than a brisk walk my heart beat like crazy I felt like I was about to have a heart attack, it took several months to feel more or less back to normal. There's something in that Pfizer one that isn't good for you. I've refused to take any Jab from now on. It's not worth the risk.
 
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robgmun said:
I don't know what or who to believe. But I took the first two jabs in 2021 which was the AstraZeneca vaccine and after a couple of days with a sore arm felt fine. But the 3rd which was a Pfizer one in early 2022 and something was off from the bat and my heart did not feel right and suddenly felt 20 years older. If I did anything more than a brisk walk my heart beat like crazy I felt like I was about to have a heart attack, it took several months to feel more or less back to normal. There's something in that Pfizer one that isn't good for you. I've refused to take any Jab from now on. It's not worth the risk.
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Did you report it?
 
robgmun said:
To what or who? There's no information out there to say to report this stuff
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Official MHRA side effect and adverse incident reporting site for coronavirus treatments and vaccines | Coronavirus (COVID-19)

The MHRA site for reporting side effects to medicines, vaccines or medical device and diagnostic adverse incidents used in coronavirus treatment
coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk

Thats a specific one as opposed to the general one.

(general is https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/)

Quite surprised you never heard of this.
Maybe I am just a bit more aware have worked in the industry for some time.
 
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I might as well report it, over a year out of date but anyway. I've had Covid at least twice now and it's just a cold, don't know if it's the Jab or it just weakened to the point it isn't a threat anymore. I think the latter honestly and there's no way I'm getting any more jabs for Covid or Flu in general.
 
mrk said:
If by bias you mean siding with one side because it has actual bodies of evidence to back up a statement vs the opposite side that doesn't and sides more on the notion that they believe xyz is wrong, but cannot actually prove it, then sure.

I'm not out to convince anyone in particular, I say things as I observe them. Take it or leave it doesn't bother me, seems most sensible folks have the articulation to be able to see the same observations too and raise rational questions, whilst the rest remain pointing fingers and calling names.
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For me, one of the biggest problems in todays world is that despite the amount of information we can find online, I feel as though we’ve never been more poorly informed, overall.

So much actual, total utter nonsense gets passed off as “evidence” when in actual fact it’s just lies, being propagated by charlatans and people performing “cargo-cult science” dressed up to look legit, when it’s just a scam to sell a book.
 
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robgmun said:
I might as well report it, over a year out of date but anyway. I've had Covid at least twice now and it's just a cold, don't know if it's the Jab or it just weakened to the point it isn't a threat anymore. I think the latter honestly and there's no way I'm getting any more jabs for Covid or Flu in general.
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Generally its following the most widely predicted model of weakening in order to become more transmissive.

Its certainly not just a cold at all.

But if your generally healthy and have had it semi recently your antibodies will give you a high chance of low risk.
It remains a dangerous (just like the Flu) disease for wide chunks of the population.

Screeeech said:
For me, one of the biggest problems in todays world is that despite the amount of information we can find online, I feel as though we’ve never been more poorly informed, overall.

So much actual, total utter nonsense gets passed off as “evidence” when in actual fact it’s just lies, being propagated by charlatans and people performing “cargo-cult science” dressed up to look legit, when it’s just a scam to sell a book.
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Keep Graham Hancock out of this thread ;)
 
robgmun said:
I don't know what or who to believe. But I took the first two jabs in 2021 which was the AstraZeneca vaccine and after a couple of days with a sore arm felt fine. But the 3rd which was a Pfizer one in early 2022 and something was off from the bat and my heart did not feel right and suddenly felt 20 years older. If I did anything more than a brisk walk my heart beat like crazy I felt like I was about to have a heart attack, it took several months to feel more or less back to normal. There's something in that Pfizer one that isn't good for you. I've refused to take any Jab from now on. It's not worth the risk.
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As an opposite - I had 1x AZ in Saudi (which the UK said didn't count) so I then had to get 2x Pfizer with all 3 so far giving me zero complaints, other than the usual you get after any jab, but my 4th overall jab (3rd in UK) was Moderna and the effects that had on me are virtually identical to what you said Pfizer did to you and mine lasted about the same time frame too.

I think it's completely pot luck, rather than a specific make of jab, as to how you react, maybe down to hitting a capillary during the injection (which is "bad") instead of being only in the muscle etc, who knows?

Like yourself I also didn't know that there was a "complaints" website for adverse reactions, and I'm relatively aware on the internet, so just imagine how many other folks have also had adverse reactions and never reported, which is why I can't always "trust the science" when I know the input data is going to be poor meaning the output data will also be poor i.e. "No-one reports a reaction due to lack of info ≠ No-ones reporting an reactions, the jab must be good then".
 
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robgmun said:
I don't know what or who to believe. But I took the first two jabs in 2021 which was the AstraZeneca vaccine and after a couple of days with a sore arm felt fine. But the 3rd which was a Pfizer one in early 2022 and something was off from the bat and my heart did not feel right and suddenly felt 20 years older. If I did anything more than a brisk walk my heart beat like crazy I felt like I was about to have a heart attack, it took several months to feel more or less back to normal. There's something in that Pfizer one that isn't good for you. I've refused to take any Jab from now on. It's not worth the risk.
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Is there any chance it coincided with you having COVID, and then getting long covid off the back of that?
 
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