Joe Rogan and Spotify

Roar87 said:
They're not a source of information, they aren't being touted as such, it's entertainment. I don't remember watching UFO documentaries on the Discovery channel and them being touted as factual, it's just entertainment, you take it with a pinch of salt.
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Slap a disclaimer on all his shows then.

It's presented in a format that can be used as an information source. We've all got that mate down the pub that'll go, "I know it's true because <insert person here> said so, and I trust them more than <insert well respected news outlet or government source etc> because they hate us all, man" while stirring their white russian.

I do agree that it's entertainment. Most treat it as such. The people moaning take it too seriously, but tbh at the same time I can see where they come from when it comes to the level of harm the ******** chatted about can cause to some members of society when used as a primary information source.
 
Fubsy said:
Slap a disclaimer on all his shows then.

It's presented in a format that can be used as an information source. We've all got that mate down the pub that'll go, "I know it's true because <insert person here> said so, and I trust them more than <insert well respected news outlet or government source etc> because they hate us all, man" while stirring their white russian.

I do agree that it's entertainment. Most treat it as such. The people moaning take it too seriously, but tbh at the same time I can see where they come from when it comes to the level of harm the ******** chatted about can cause to some members of society when used as a primary information source.
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If you've ever listened to his pod cast prior to Spotify you'd do well to get anyone to listen to the disclaimer. There is legitimately about 7 mins of intro advertisements for all sorts of supplements and crap he pedals.

The guy is a modern day charlatan, gateway right-winger.
 
dLockers said:
If you've ever listened to his pod cast prior to Spotify you'd do well to get anyone to listen to the disclaimer. There is legitimately about 7 mins of intro advertisements for all sorts of supplements and crap he pedals.

The guy is a modern day charlatan, gateway right-winger.
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He's the same as Alex Jones really. Jones' target demographic is conservative Christians who are scared the Dems are going to get them. While Rogan's is more 20-30s males who spend too much time on the internet.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
You go on to make the exact same mistake that I pointed, so it seems either you don't know the difference or are intentionally conflating it. Spotify doesn't have an opinion on the matter. They don't care.

Did i say that they don't?
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How do you know whether they care or not/or do have an opinion or not (or those in charge at least)? Or whether they were pressured into it or not?

You will never know because you dont work high up in Spotify, and it doesnt matter either way.
 
Joe Rogan is a massive idiot but he was the same before Spotify signed him. They were willing to take the risk while it still pulls them in money but it's probably going to change quickly now this is starting to gain a bit of traction.
 
Fubsy said:
Slap a disclaimer on all his shows then.

It's presented in a format that can be used as an information source. We've all got that mate down the pub that'll go, "I know it's true because <insert person here> said so, and I trust them more than <insert well respected news outlet or government source etc> because they hate us all, man" while stirring their white russian.

I do agree that it's entertainment. Most treat it as such. The people moaning take it too seriously, but tbh at the same time I can see where they come from when it comes to the level of harm the ******** chatted about can cause to some members of society when used as a primary information source.
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Is this forum entertainment or a source of information? Do we need a disclaimer for here also? Maybe life needs a ******* disclaimer these days
 
Roar87 said:
Is this forum entertainment or a source of information? Do we need a disclaimer for here also? Maybe life needs a ******* disclaimer these days
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Well, we don't allow medical threads for a reason...

Most of the misinformation on these forums don't cause harm, unless you end up banging heads against the wall arguing about Greta, falling down a Dowie hole, etc.
 
Roar87 said:
Is this forum entertainment or a source of information? Do we need a disclaimer for here also? Maybe life needs a ******* disclaimer these days
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There are all sorts of rules we have to follow on this forum and things we are not allowed to do or say or talk about that you would be able to in your own home/on your own website.

That is primarily for business reasons also.
 
Jono8 said:
There are all sorts of rules we have to follow on this forum and things we are not allowed to do or say or talk about that you would be able to in your own home/on your own website.

That is primarily for business reasons also.
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I'm not talking about rules I'm talking about a disclaimer for reading the content
 
Roar87 said:
Is this forum entertainment or a source of information? Do we need a disclaimer for here also? Maybe life needs a ******* disclaimer these days
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:cry: You mean like the one you agreed to when you signed up?

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VincentHanna said:
Based on what I know from sports, wrestling etc...probably not.

They can basically write you a prescription for anything you want, since you are more like a customer, and then you can go to multiple doctors to get the same prescription.
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Okay so you're claim is that because some doctors have a vested financial interest in pushing certain products, your leap is therefore that no doctors can be trusted. Correct? You're making an absurd claim to win an argument.
 
Roar87 said:
This is a clip from Opie and Anthony, most likely over 20 years ago, why are clips from 20+ years ago being dug up I wonder? It's the cancel culture people at it again!
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Lets say it was 20 years ago, he was 34, he wasn't a child, he was well into his adult life. Are you saying that the way you act as a 34 year old is irrelevant? That clip was uploaded in 2018 so hardly brand new.

Roar87 said:
They're not a source of information, they aren't being touted as such, it's entertainment. I don't remember watching UFO documentaries on the Discovery channel and them being touted as factual, it's just entertainment, you take it with a pinch of salt.
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For millions he is. I've lost count of the people who've quoted him and his show when defending a belief. Its not a case of cancelling him, he just needs to take some responsibility as he's fully aware that some people take his words as fact. Yes they are idiots but the world is full of idiots.
 
Platforms shouldn't be bloody responsible for the people/morons on them.
Its a media streaming service....
Youtube, Facebook all of them should stop sticking their righteous noses in.
We should have left this partisan nonsense behind in the 1990s.
 
Roar87 said:
That private companies shouldn't perhaps censor based on blue haired Twitter outrage? That's essentially my opinion. Everytime I see someone comment on Facebook negatively about Joe Rogan I'll check their profile out and it's always some 50+ year old bloke who looks like he's given up on life and wants to drag the rest of the world down with him, like their wife has bought their clothes for the past 25 years, so that probably influences my opinion too
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and there is Roar with his "weak man" line again. What is it with you and masculinity???
 
Spotify unlike Twiiter or Facebook is a paid for service and clearly has editorial control over its content. So they are responsible for what Rogan says particulalry when he is paid to produce content. But we are not talking about a subject where no other sources of informed opinion are available. It's the most talked about topic in the World for the last 2 years. If he hosts someone with misguided beliefs on vaccinations there are innumerable science bods on the MSM willing refute the statements and innumerable Government and health officials providing informed advice.

I know the guy has a wide audience but this is just the usual illiberal response that is standard for those that stray from Offendoshpere's holy writ.
 
should be legally questionabled whether a spotify disclaimer is adequate to abdicate themselves, offcom fined russian tv for their uk broadcasts.

As an employee Rogan, is not now liable if someone dies (with Covid) because of bad advice - Spotify are - them being a Publisher is the nub
- it's not so different to buying an electric kettle say, it has/had a CE mark to indicate it's fit for purpose.

now become one of the 50million viewers of rogan musk - well watched 30s, who has the time/inclination to watch 2hrs+ of this love in.
 
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