Journey Back to The Stage

Delvis · 16 Nov 2012 at 12:05

Steedie said:
Yeah, I know I need to do calves more, may give that a shot doing it every day post workout!

Posted this before mate somewhere, but as FF said really:

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_answer_for_massive_calves

Freefaller said:
Negatives rock for size - when I was doing AGVT I think my calorie intake went over 4k owing to the sheer amount of effort required. You saw the results I got from my volume training! Not needed for strength/explosive power though.

Considering I'm training to gain size, however much my GF hates the idea it would seem, I may look in to it on some lifts to introduce a shock.

Steedie · 16 Nov 2012 at 12:10

Yeah the DOMS I get in my chest from doing negatives is unreal. Seriously recommend it Delvis

Delvis · 16 Nov 2012 at 12:16

Steedie said:
Yeah the DOMS I get in my chest from doing negatives is unreal. Seriously recommend it Delvis

Nice one. May consult you one day.

I get pretty good chest doms currently and I'm reasonably happy with development, so I'll play it by ear

Freefaller · 16 Nov 2012 at 12:19

Negatives generate more growth than anything else - that is why I always bang on about a good controlled negative - no point in letting gravity do the work.

LiE · 16 Nov 2012 at 12:22

It's all about time under tension baby.

Freefaller · 16 Nov 2012 at 12:23

We all like a little tension :cool:

Delvis · 16 Nov 2012 at 12:31

Aye makes sense. I'll continue to add more weight on squats how I have been, then introduce some slow negs

Freefaller · 16 Nov 2012 at 12:57

To be honest, even if you're developing strength, your negatives should still be resistive - maybe not 4s+ negs, but you shouldn't let your body just fall during a squat - a nice controlled movement is what I mean.

Delvis · 16 Nov 2012 at 13:13

Freefaller said:
To be honest, even if you're developing strength, your negatives should still be resistive - maybe not 4s+ negs, but you shouldn't let your body just fall during a squat - a nice controlled movement is what I mean.

Yeah I try to control my negatives where I can so they don't just drop down

What I mean though is I'm training for size as it is, rather than specifically strength, I don't think I'd gain (that much?) if I started playing with slow negs in my current state, considering my lifts are low end.

mrthingyx · 16 Nov 2012 at 13:38

Delvis said:
Yeah I try to control my negatives where I can so they don't just drop down What I mean though is I'm training for size as it is, rather than specifically strength, I don't think I'd gain (that much?) if I started playing with slow negs in my current state, considering my lifts are low end.

It's the most 'damaging' form of resistance work and therefore leads to more rebuilding/restructuring as a result.

If you consider it as advancing your existing hypertrophy technique, rather than a different form of exercise, what have you got to lose?

It's not a question of doing 10sec negatives or anything, just really concentrating on the control of the descent of the weight (squat, deadlift, curl, whatever) and taking a little more time over it.

Freefaller · 16 Nov 2012 at 13:54

Indeed, just add it to your routine, slow down the negs, or if you start to fail, get your spotted to help you on the explosive phase so that you can do the negative phase.

Skillmister · 16 Nov 2012 at 14:01

I do calve raises every time i brush my teeth.

Delvis · 16 Nov 2012 at 14:28

mrthingyx said:
It's the most 'damaging' form of resistance work and therefore leads to more rebuilding/restructuring as a result.

If you consider it as advancing your existing hypertrophy technique, rather than a different form of exercise, what have you got to lose?

It's not a question of doing 10sec negatives or anything, just really concentrating on the control of the descent of the weight (squat, deadlift, curl, whatever) and taking a little more time over it.

True. I'm just trying to concentrate on being able to actually shift a weight for once at the moment that's all.

Freefaller said:
Indeed, just add it to your routine, slow down the negs, or if you start to fail, get your spotted to help you on the explosive phase so that you can do the negative phase.

Spotter? What is this you speak of? I'm literally one of 3 people who use the gym/fitness room at this school, and the other two come in, bench press with their legs up in the air instantly and do weird should/curl/thingy raises

And that's once in a blue moon if you're lucky!

icecold · 16 Nov 2012 at 15:44

I try to atrophy my calves as much as possible because I hate the ****s.

Skillmister · 16 Nov 2012 at 16:02

Thinking of rigging my desk up with springs so i can do seated calf raises all day e'ry day

Steedie · 17 Nov 2012 at 13:42

Friday: Shoulder/Back Width

DB Press - 24kg x12x2, 30kg x10, 32kg x8
DB Front Raise - 12kg x10, 14kg x10x2
Barbell Press - 50kg x10, 60kg x10x2
Rear Cable Flies - 20kg x15x4
Cable Side Raises - 20kg x10x2, 20kg x10/Dropset of 10kg x12
Wide Grip Pull ups - BW x10, BW+5kg x8x2
Lat Pull Downs Reverse Grip - 60kg x10x2, 70kg x8
Pull overs - 25kg x10x3

T-Shirt felt so tight after this workout, was awesome, the drop set on the side raises just made my shoulders blow up. You know what I felt like? A champ, they should have given me a medal, but this lady below seems to have been given it....it looks good on her

Djdom56 · 17 Nov 2012 at 17:10

Got to be honest, once I clicked the spoiler tag your workout became irrelevant. I should have read it first

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mrthingyx · 17 Nov 2012 at 17:13

Djdom56 said:
Got to be honest, once I clicked the spoiler tag your workout became irrelevant. I should have read it first .

What workout? Steedie posted his session? :confused:

Steedie · 17 Nov 2012 at 18:22

Hnnnngggg

Skillmister · 17 Nov 2012 at 23:03

Merlin shoulder press brahski.