Jules Bianchi thread for updates and discussion

You've missunderstood me.

I mean you can try and brand 'sending someone to sleep' as dying with dignity, but in the eyes of the law its killing someone.
 
Euthanasia is a massively complex discussion. If you want to have it then by all means, but perhaps we should take it to a GD thread? I think we should keep this one positive for the time being.
 
One said:
If i was in that situation I'd want to be kept alive forever. You just never know when you might wake up. You always hear of the odd cases where someone wakes up from a coma after 20 years or something. I reckon that would be pretty crazy, go into a coma as a 20/30 year old, then wake up as a 60 year old.

Would you still ultimately die of old age or could you live forever?
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Thats some thought. Can anyone possibly try to imagine that? How would the human mind cope with that with so much change. Its bad enough if it was 5 - 8 years let alone 10 - 20…

Just imagine waking up thinking you're still 25, now you're 35, 40 or 45.
 
jampay said:
I hope that in these times of mega contracts, discussions on the future of F1, costs and changes, that F1 has the mechanisms to look after its own. For me we all want faster cars and more excitement, but for all the money in F1 I hope that mechanisms are in place to support families such as the Bianchi's. God bless Jules and Michael never forget!
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An evacuation under intensive care by medically equipped ambulance (equipment and presence of a doctor proficient in resuscitation on board) with an escort may, however, be carried out, provided that the receiving hospital has been approved beforehand for the treatment presumed necessary according to the casualty’s condition and that it can be reached in approximately 20 minutes (except for serious burns), regardless of the weather and road traffic conditions (except in a case of force majeure). If these conditions are not satisfied, the timed session must be interrupted.

d) Unforseen circumstances, especially the weather, may prevent the arrival, departure or return of the helicopter. In such a case, and after consultation between:

– the Chief Medical Officer;
– the Race Director; and
– the FIA Medical Delegate;
an ongoing or interrupted timed session may perhaps continue or be resumed depending on the conditions of evacuation of a casualty under intensive care to one of the hospitals mentioned in the medical questionnaire for the event and approved by the FIA Medical Delegate.
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Why did Dr. Saillant not address the question of EXACTLY when the Medical Delegate (his personal appointee) knew that the helicopter could not land at the receiving hospital? Under difficult circumstances this often requires near real time communication with the helicopter crew. The delegate is up in race control with nothing else to do during the race. That’s why he’s there. Why was racing not stopped? This is far from a trivial issue, and is all the more dramatic that the FIA’s own regulations would appear to have been ignored by their author, the Medical Delegate.

https://formerf1doc.wordpress.com/2014/12/04/the-bianchi-accident-investigation-panel/
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At the time it didn't seem so serious, but looking at the FIA investigation report, questions need to be answered as to why they took twice the allocated time to get Jules to the hospital :(
 
The whole catalogue of events smacks of complacency from the point a safety car wasn't deployed after Sutil's accident. For the life of me I still can not understand why such experienced personnel, who had all witnessed this exact thing happen in the same circumstances at the same corner in 1994, chose to cross their fingers.

What I will say is that, as I remember from the days after the accident, was that Bianchi was apparently stable and that his injuries weren't the result of the pressure of bleeding on the brain (and thus the time it took to get him to hospital to operate on him), but by the damage caused by the impact itself, which caused injuries throughout the brain.

I'm not defending the medical team, as I don't know what the circumstances were, but I don't think the extra time taken was a major factor in this particular case.

Anyway, the race was stopped only 6 minutes from the point the safety car was deployed. Another minute for the medical personnel to get to the scene of the accident. Another minute to check Jules' general condition. The red flag came out 4 minutes later, by which point the ambulance was already on the track, half a lap ahead of the safety car and the train.
 
We were also told at Sochi that Jules’ condition at the end of that waterlogged siren-punctuated ambulance ride to the hospital was exactly the same as when he left the circuit. Are you kidding me?

Don’t get me wrong. I have no doubt that my Japanese colleagues were indeed able to make sure that Jules’ blood pressure, heart rate, oxygen saturation, expired carbon dioxide, etc (the EXTERNAL parameters, the ones we measure easily) were unchanged over 40 minutes.

But find the nearest neurosurgeon and ask him if the brain of a patient who’s had a head injury with immediate coma is the same after 40 minutes of transport as after 20 minutes, and he’ll look at you like you were nuts. Because you are.
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