Junior doctor strike: Union's pay demands unrealistic, says Steve Barclay
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Soldato
Looking forward to some large tax increases, direct or indirect to pay for all this expenditure.
That is the difference with other countries noted. They pay more tax.
That is the difference with other countries noted. They pay more tax.
Well people should realise that you pay either way.
Less taxation pushes up waiting lists and more people start looking to private healthcare. Which is not cheap. £14k per knee op a friend of ours was quoted recently. Ouch.
The US pays more per person on healthcare than we do...
Make everything private and you pay less tax but pay massively more in bills.
Perhaps we should stop trying to cheap out on healthcare. If that means paying more tax, so be it.
Soldato
Yes people should be aware that there are costs to everything. Maybe take some of the free at the point of delivery, off the free part oF the NHS delivery. Potentially life threatening or debilitating illness obviously not.
If you want your doctors and nurses to be paid substantially more then there is a cost attached. It is not a cost that can be extracted solely from the top 5% either.
We need another national discussion about our national services. We probably get fairly mediocre results because we don't want to pay for them?
I look forward to the Mail, etc, trying to persuade people that we pay too much tax already, and that the public sector is the root of all evil, sucking the country dry like vampires.
But yeah, we probably do need a discussion. I'm just not hopeful that we'd arrive at the correct result afterwards. This country is prone to self-harm, at the behest of the Murdochs of the world.
Profits are at record highs, I think if we start taxing the increasingly monopolistic companies and nationalising industries that need bail outs every 10 to 20 years after stealing profits, we would be ok.
The UK population how ever wants to lick boots and over lord billionaires to keep their billions how ever, so the UK population deserves to suffer without decent social works.
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Caporegime
Pretty much in a nut shell. We have gotten to the point where people have had enough of the stagnant wage growth but unfortunately there is no money left to pay for it because the top 1% have taken it all over the past 40 years.
What would be the silver bullet would be someone to come out and say this and understand the past 40 years has been a complete rip. Make people understand they cannot pay the wage demands now but can understand that a change needs to be brought in to help facilitate real wage growth for the future. Not just for those at the very top.
Soldato
Merry Christmas!
I am a proponent of small charges for everyday services. For example, £5/£10 per GP appointment. Shouldn't bankrupt anyone but taken over the entire service will add up and fund something. Along the lines of prescriptions.
Missed appointments are charged at double rate unless accompanied by a death certificate !!!
What else? Minor operations are charges along the lines of dental care. Wart removal/skin tags/ear wax removal items of that nature £25 etc etc.
People should also contribute a monthly amount per person £5/£10 etc.
Thus, a family of 4 is £20/£40 per month and then a pay per use of let's say another £10 totals £30/£50.
I will probably get shot down but the reality is either your tax rate will rise or you contribute. The effect is the same it is just that this amount is earmarked specifically for the NHS and does not go into some cockamamie scheme to build mounds in Hyde Park or How to raise awareness on the legitimacy of Street art etc
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I am a proponent of small charges for everyday services. For example, £5/£10 per GP appointment. Shouldn't bankrupt anyone but taken over the entire service will add up and fund something. Along the live lines of prescriptions.
Missed appointments are charged at double rate unless accompanied by a death certificate !!!
What else? Minor operations are charges along the lines of dental care. Wart removal/skin tags/ear wax removal items of that nature £25 etc etc.
People should also contribute a monthly amount per person £5/£10 etc.
Thus, a family of 4 is £20/£40 per month and then a pay per use of let's say another £10 totals £30/£50.
I will probably get shot down but the reality is either your tax rate will rise or you contribute. The effect is the same it is just that this amount is earmarked specifically for the NHS and does not go into some cockamamie scheme to build mounds in Hyde Park or How to raise awareness on the legitimacy of Street art