Just a few SSD questions.

Perfect_Chaos

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How good are 2 OCZ Vertex drives in RAID exactly?

is there a big failure rate going with them like that, a lot of cash down the drain if they do?

is one of them faster than a single Velociraptor?, anybody notice a big difference in loading things and booting up windows etc?

also, how long do these drives last? wondering because last time i saw some info on them they only allow so many writes/reads before they stop working? bit different to disks with spinning platters.

simple and straight to the point questions :p
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
How good are 2 OCZ Vertex drives in RAID exactly?
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Quicker than any affordable desktop drive.

Perfect_Chaos said:
is there a big failure rate going with them like that, a lot of cash down the drain if they do?
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Not seen one thread yet detailing a failure of an SSD drive.

Perfect_Chaos said:
is one of them faster than a single Velociraptor?, anybody notice a big difference in loading things and booting up windows etc?
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Loads Vista 64 fairly quickly as you would expect.

Perfect_Chaos said:
also, how long do these drives last? wondering because last time i saw some info on them they only allow so many writes/reads before they stop working? bit different to disks with spinning platters.
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With normal use - years. With 24/7 read/write, maybe only 5 years. By which time more quicker and larger capacity SSD drives will be around so would have upgraded anyway.

simple and straight to the point answers :)
 
Great answers thanks :D

But how much quicker is one of these over a velociraptor? is there that much difference?

I may get one some time, not sure about 2 as that would cost 400 quid alone at least at the moment anyway, a lot of cash for what they are to be honest.
 
I would probably use one as a main drive for windows & games, then use a normal hard drive for backup, is that what most others do?.

any price drops due on them any time soon?
 
I've ordered 2 of the ocz vertex 30gb's - going to use them for games and windows - then use my normal hdd for backups/photo's etc.
 
Just flashed my Vertex's to firmware 1.10 and reloaded my rig to Win7 RC 7100 and now boots from cold in about 20s - and that includes the post sequence! Musn't grumble eh?! :D
 
its Super :) (the 1.1 does add some more improvements to speed of the ssd)

my post takes as long as my windows 7 does to get to desktop (after the post screen windows 7 loads) (35 secs)
 
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need to see if i can speed up the post screen but may not be able to with this motherboard

still see no point in putting vertex/samsung/corsair (2gen) drives in raid unless your working on 10GB files, just buy the 256gb drive or the 128gb one
 
leexgx said:
still see no point in putting vertex/samsung/corsair (2gen) drives in raid unless your working on 10GB files, just buy the 256gb drive or the 128gb one
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I thought the point of RAID was to make file access etc even faster?, so why is it people have 2 or 3 in RAID?

How close would 2 of vertex (assuming these are the best) in RAID come to say the OCZ Z drive? because that one is rediculously expensive.
 
most likely first time users of SSD and have used raid in the past to get more speed out of hdds or need a lot of data rate

using more SSD or HDD in raid just makes file Transfers faster, not file access faster{latency} (if anything it make the latency go up using raid but not that much for us humans to detect when using the pc), also the TRIM command on windows 7 when that comes to SSDs mite not be able to be used on RAID SSD setups

for norm use gamer or office or PSP, with SSDs they go at +200MB/s alone and have <1ms access times, 1 vertex or samsung based drives responds far faster and data rate then 2 raptors in raid (4 or more raptors can's match the access times of an SSD)

just for norm office use or gameing you hard pressed to see performance between an OCZ vertex or samsung to an OCZ Z drive you need to be messing with very big files 10GB or so, when useing hard disks you do get an inprovement useing more disks but with SSD the access time is that fast things just happen strate away (the price of the Zdrive is bit ££)

once you used SSD you never want to use an HDD agane (as an boot drive)
 
leexgx said:
most likely first time users of SSD and have used raid in the past to get more speed out of hdds or need a lot of data rate

using more SSD or HDD in raid just makes file Transfers faster, not file access faster{latency} (if anything it make the latency go up using raid but not that much for us humans to detect when using the pc), also the TRIM command on windows 7 when that comes to SSDs mite not be able to be used on RAID SSD setups

for norm use gamer or office or PSP, with SSDs they go at +200MB/s alone and have <1ms access times, 1 vertex or samsung based drives responds far faster and data rate then 2 raptors in raid (4 or more raptors can's match the access times of an SSD)

just for norm office use or gameing you hard pressed to see performance between an OCZ vertex or samsung to an OCZ Z drive you need to be messing with very big files 10GB or so, when useing hard disks you do get an inprovement useing more disks but with SSD the access time is that fast things just happen strate away (the price of the Zdrive is bit ££)

once you used SSD you never want to use an HDD agane (as an boot drive)
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That's what i mainly wanted to know, i will definately get one when i have some dosh spare. Thing is my steam folder takes up just over 30gb, how do SSD's perform when a lot of space is used up?

i would have to get a 60gb minimum, 120gb is too expensive for my liking at the moment.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
That's what i mainly wanted to know, i will definately get one when i have some dosh spare. Thing is my steam folder takes up just over 30gb, how do SSD's perform when a lot of space is used up?

i would have to get a 60gb minimum, 120gb is too expensive for my liking at the moment.
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128GB Corsair is cheaper than 60GB Vertex; slower transfers but same access times, stutter free. IMO that's the way to go atm.
Full SSDs have a different sort of slowdown than HDDs. HDDs have a fragmented slowdown with the head having to read all over the place; SSDs that doesn't matter but, incidentally, as they fill up there are fewer unused blocks, and it takes more time to erase a block and write to it than just to write to it. This is where trim comes in. Can't remember if the Corsair supports Trim, but more space means you won't need Trim for longer, and the slowdown won't be that big anyway; if reformatting, do a SecureErase and drive speed will be back to new.
 
explicit4u said:
120GB OCZ Vertex is pants, get the GSkill Falcon 128GB, its faster, cheaper and better looking ;-)

Reviewed here
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Hmm, seems you dont even read the articles you link to... this is a direct quote from their conclusions:

"Well yeah .. that was surprising wasn't it? Man this thing nearly flies in your PC, astonishing performance, really astonishing. One remark; as you have been able to see, this product is faster than the OCZ Vertex, while the components used are nearly identical. When we reviewed the OCZ drive, right after the publication a new firmware was released, bringing more performance to that drive.

This particular Falcon SSD has that new firmware. So apples for apples .. performance in the end would be roughly the same. And that performance is astonishing."


So where exactly are you getting the "Vertex is pants" from then?:p
 
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