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just bought a gtx 980ti for my needs was it the right decision

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crinkleshoes said:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18624966&highlight=780ti

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18625054&highlight=780ti

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18626008&highlight=780ti

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18627813&highlight=780ti

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I'm sure if people wait more than a week after release they might get a better deal! :p

Anyway, it's all hypothetical at the moment, we'll see soon enough.

I would pay around £350 for the right card (980ti) at the minute, but as the new gen releases and time goes on that target will lower for sure.

I'm actually not that desperate for SLI as a 980ti single card is awesome as it is, I'm more interested in picking one up because prices will be good and in games that support SLI the performance will outshine a 1080 by quite a bit...
 
crinkleshoes said:
Taking a took at the relative performance graphs then yes... the 1070 will be similar performance or just a teeny bit slower than the 980ti in a lot of things.

People wanting to turn single 980ti systems into sli-980ti systems will keep the price a bit higher.

So I would expect the second hand price of 980ti to stay around, if not a little higher than the 1070.
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Don't buy that at all if they're similar performance. I'd pay £100 more for a new card that used a lot less power and had full warranty over a second hand 980Ti.
 
I was selling 780Tis for £200 whilst the 980Ti and others had been out for a long time, even in the knowledge of next gen announcements being around the corner.

Personally, I would not sell a 980Ti for £200. I'll keep it and wait for better new gen cards. At the end of the day, it's worth what someone is willing to pay. A lot of people will look at SLI 980Tis rather than changing gen, they will want to do it for cheaper than an upgrade to next gen and gain more performance. There will be a healthy enough market for 980Tis which I doubt will see their price dropping to £200. In a year perhaps, but not now.
 
Minstadave said:
Don't buy that at all if they're similar performance. I'd pay £100 more for a new card that used a lot less power and had full warranty over a second hand 980Ti.
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You are missing the point somewhat though, it's not about 980Ti versus 1070. It's that those who want more performance for the best bang:buck will look at 980Ti SLI as an option. You cannot buy a 1070 instead of a 2nd hand 980Ti to go....SLI 980TIs. You need another 980Ti.....
 
When there's a glut of DX12 games it'll be worth upgrading from my 980 Ti. I've had it a year now so if the next Ti comes out next year that's a good outing IMHO.

Also I can't see the VR market moving on much until the next gen head sets are announced and we know the 980 Ti is more than enough for the current HMDs.
 
But Sin Chase, the 780ti to 980 etc were all on the same node, DX11, similar (same?) features. I think this time there's a bigger shift in technology and more good features coming. A Ti owner upgrading to 980 Ti Sli still means they're stuck on old 28nm, poor VR performance (compared to the new cards), DX12 "ready" rather than being formed more around DX12 etc, etc. 780 ti to 980 etc was all based around DX11 too. DX implementations IMO are never done properly until the next gen after it becomes available.Fewer will want to Sli I think, they'll want the step up to the new tech.

We'll all see in the coming weeks - I'm just speculating but I really can't see people being willing to pay good money for old tech even if they would like to Sli with an exisitng card to bring down the average cost. Even those uninformed will surely see a point where they'd be better off just selling their single card and buying new rather than investing further into old tech....unless it's cheap enough
 
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Sin_Chase said:
You are missing the point somewhat though, it's not about 980Ti versus 1070. It's that those who want more performance for the best bang:buck will look at 980Ti SLI as an option. You cannot buy a 1070 instead of a 2nd hand 980Ti to go....SLI 980TIs. You need another 980Ti.....
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I don't think a small cadre of 980Ti SLI wannabes is going to hold up prices much. Especially with the temptation of selling a 980Ti and going to 1070 SLI as an option with far less heat and power issues.
 
I bought a 980 when it was the top card and looked really good against a 780ti. When the 980ti came out, I felt a bit robbed. This is why I want to avoid 1080 and either way it out for the 1080ti or go 980ti SLI.
 
Sin_Chase said:
You are missing the point somewhat though, it's not about 980Ti versus 1070. It's that those who want more performance for the best bang:buck will look at 980Ti SLI as an option. You cannot buy a 1070 instead of a 2nd hand 980Ti to go....SLI 980TIs. You need another 980Ti.....
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Yes something I'm mulling over. 980ti that I have now runs everything I play fine but will need upgrading at some point in the future. So do I sell for a 1080 and pay likely another £250 to stay ahead of the curve, keep what I have and pick up another 980ti later on to sli.

Keeping it and changing when it needs changing for something new is probably the most sensible thing to do but it is tempting to keep up with new tech.

I think the SLI thing is probably the wrong thing to do as ultimately I'll end up with 2 cards based on old tech and then it becomes an expensive upgrade when both need replacing. Also SLI profiles etc etc.
 
VR remains a niche market
DX12 is still a relatively slow segment
Many do not care for efficiency/power savings (And to be fair 9xx is already pretty good on that front)

They are all good things to have, but for many people fall below the number 1 priority - Performance.

£250-300 for a 980TI SLI upgrade and the same/more performance than a 1080 with a resell value X months/years down the line is an attractive prospect to some. Especially when at that later point in time the generation will be more mature, cheaper and likely with more options (Non Reference cards, 3rd party coolers etc)

The bottom line is, a 980Ti single card config is still very much quick enough for a large % of people on current gen titles. It will still be an excellent card as a 2nd hand buy for non early adopters, those running smaller resolutions or people who do not have brand new 1080 money to spend. The primary drive for 2nd hand 980Tis will be demand and the cost of the 1070 (and it's performance). I think expecting the 1070 to retail at £320 on launch is optimistic, I hope I am wrong though.
 
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crinkleshoes said:
At the release of the 970, yes - they did
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Sin_Chase said:
You are missing the point somewhat though, it's not about 980Ti versus 1070. It's that those who want more performance for the best bang:buck will look at 980Ti SLI as an option. You cannot buy a 1070 instead of a 2nd hand 980Ti to go....SLI 980TIs. You need another 980Ti.....
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Just replying to both these together. Things are different now with the Die Shrink, Dx12 and VR.

It all depends on the price/performance of the 1070 of course. Which we will know on the 17th, hopefully!!
 
Sin_Chase said:
VR remains a niche market
DX12 is still a relatively slow segment
Many do not care for efficiency/power savings (And to be fair 9xx is already pretty good on that front)

They are all good things to have, but for many people fall below the number 1 priority - Performance.

£250-300 for a 980TI SLI upgrade and the same/more performance than a 1080 with a resell value X months/years down the line is an attractive prospect to some. Especially when at that later point in time the generation will be more mature, cheaper and likely with more options (Non Reference cards, 3rd party coolers etc)

The bottom line is, a 980Ti single card config is still very much quick enough for a large % of people on current gen titles. It will still be an excellent card as a 2nd hand buy for non early adopters, those running smaller resolutions or people who do not have brand new 1080 money to spend. The primary drive for 2nd hand 980Tis will be demand and the cost of the 1070 (and it's performance). I think expecting the 1070 to retail at £320 on launch is optimistic, I hope I am wrong though.
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I think you have it wrong. If was playing at lower resolutions I would definitely get rid of the 980Ti. Any advantage the 980Ti might have over the new cards is at higher resolutions.
 
I hung onto my present card thinking I would wait it out for pascal but with this card coming along and letting me finish my loop and give me a good boost I decided to get it. I doubt any new card coming out would allow me to watercool for under £400 they are always £200 more with blocks fitted so I would be paying near double for a new tech mid range card with little improvement over the second hand top dog old tech card. A new NVidia flagship card watercooled would be I bet £800+ so that's deffo out for me.
I have done all this in the past and learnt my lesson the new cards tend to come with expensive bragging rights which seems to me to be a major attraction :) its not like the bad old days when dropping down to mid range killed the game most games all play well on midrange cards anyway :D
 
martian1 said:
I hung onto my present card thinking I would wait it out for pascal but with this card coming along and letting me finish my loop and give me a good boost I decided to get it. I doubt any new card coming out would allow me to watercool for under £400 they are always £200 more with blocks fitted so I would be paying near double for a new tech mid range card with little improvement over the second hand top dog old tech card. A new NVidia flagship card watercooled would be I bet £800+ so that's deffo out for me.
I have done all this in the past and learnt my lesson the new cards tend to come with expensive bragging rights which seems to me to be a major attraction :) its not like the bad old days when dropping down to mid range killed the game most games all play well on midrange cards anyway :D
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Did you get the cards and the waterblocks for £375?
 
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