just bought a gtx 980ti for my needs was it the right decision

Dave2150 · 15 May 2016 at 18:07

DarrenM343 said:
Laughable isn't it? Dishonest?

It's the way of the world though. Mostly everyone is willing to walk over someone else if they can get away with it. Those who don't educate themselves in such matters get taken advantage of.

I feel sorry for anyone paying close to £400 for a 980ti. Give it a month and they'll be down to £200. The 1070 will wreck it, has more VRAM and of course will be the benefactor of driver optimizations for future games.

BluesFanUK · 15 May 2016 at 18:10

Dave2150 said:
It's the way of the world though. Mostly everyone is willing to walk over someone else if they can get away with it. Those who don't educate themselves in such matters get taken advantage of.

I feel sorry for anyone paying close to £400 for a 980ti. Give it a month and they'll be down to £200. The 1070 will wreck it, has more VRAM and of course will be the benefactor of driver optimizations for future games.

You've come to that conclusion based on Nvidia's hype? Wait for a few reviews first.

The 980ti is still a great card, if everyone bought cards based on optimum power/performance/price then AMD would be out the game completely.

geordiejc · 15 May 2016 at 18:26

Where did you buy the card? i was looking at the exact same card on gumtree but i believe it was a scam.

crinkleshoes · 15 May 2016 at 19:13

Minstadave said:
I don't think a small cadre of 980Ti SLI wannabes is going to hold up prices much. Especially with the temptation of selling a 980Ti and going to 1070 SLI as an option with far less heat and power issues.

But then you have to consider that the 1070 will likely have similar performance issues to the 970...

So as the 780ti performs similarly to the 970... the 780ti is the better card, so worth more money.

Similarly, if the 980ti performs similarly to the 1070 - then the 980ti will be the better card and worth more money

970 SLI heavily exascerbates the issue in the hardware configuration... it's likely the 1070 will show the same thing due to the memory segregation. There is a good chance the 1070 should be a 6GB card... it's a shame Nvidia have chosen to pursue this mistake in hardware allocation for a third time (it happened with a previous generation too - the 670 i think).

martian1 · 15 May 2016 at 20:31

melmac said:
Did you get the cards and the waterblocks for £375?

Yes this card can run on air and water the block is factory fitted.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ss-graphics-card-gtx980ti-6gd5-gx-382-as.html

cheers

martian1 · 15 May 2016 at 20:34

geordiejc said:
Where did you buy the card? i was looking at the exact same card on gumtree but i believe it was a scam.

No I bought it off a guy on the avforums has good feedback so hopefully it will be ok.

Dirk Diggler · 15 May 2016 at 20:34

crinkleshoes said:
But then you have to consider that the 1070 will likely have similar performance issues to the 970...

What you basing that info on?

Smurfin · 15 May 2016 at 20:41

I don't understand the point of this thread. You've already bought it which means it was the right decision for you at the time, so what anyone else thinks is largely irrelevant no?

melmac · 15 May 2016 at 20:44

martian1 said:
Yes this card can run on air and water the block is factory fitted.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ss-graphics-card-gtx980ti-6gd5-gx-382-as.html

cheers

Well, if you did get the card and the waterblocks for £375, then that was a really good deal.

Personally I still would have waited for 17th to see what the story was, but you did well, so as long as you are happy, who cares??

melmac · 15 May 2016 at 20:53

crinkleshoes said:
But then you have to consider that the 1070 will likely have similar performance issues to the 970...

So as the 780ti performs similarly to the 970... the 780ti is the better card, so worth more money.

Similarly, if the 980ti performs similarly to the 1070 - then the 980ti will be the better card and worth more money

970 SLI heavily exascerbates the issue in the hardware configuration... it's likely the 1070 will show the same thing due to the memory segregation. There is a good chance the 1070 should be a 6GB card... it's a shame Nvidia have chosen to pursue this mistake in hardware allocation for a third time (it happened with a previous generation too - the 670 i think).

What? where are you getting this info? Nvidia didn't do anything with the memory with the 670.

Nvidia had to cut costs to make the 970 the price it was. The slow memory was part of that cost cutting.

This time around the 1070 will have the cheapest and slowest memory, GDDR5, while the 1080 will have GDDR5x. There will no need to artificially gimp the performance of the x70 card.

AiiR · 15 May 2016 at 21:16

You don't need to justify your purchases to these guys, if you're happy with what you got then thats all that matters. No point being one of these people that always waits for the next best thing.

At worst, 980ti prices nose dive once the 1080 gets released but in all honesty they're not going to take that much of a hit, and I doubt you'll get a new one for much less than what you've paid.

melmac · 15 May 2016 at 22:08

AiiR said:
You don't need to justify your purchases to these guys, if you're happy with what you got then thats all that matters. No point being one of these people that always waits for the next best thing.

At worst, 980ti prices nose dive once the 1080 gets released but in all honesty they're not going to take that much of a hit, and I doubt you'll get a new one for much less than what you've paid.

If he didn't need to justify his purchase he wouldn't have posted the thread in the first place. It sounds to me like he was trying to convince himself that he made the right choice. I mean read the thread title? I don't think he is fully happy with his decision.

Twirlywoos · 15 May 2016 at 22:47

Sounds like you are having doubts therefore you made the wrong decision.

Have doubts getting married? Then you've probably picked the wrong partner.
Have doubts in purchasing a car? Then you probably should have gone for a Honda

Telecaster · 15 May 2016 at 22:58

Buckster said:
amazing how many 980Ti owners don't have the time to play games at the moment due to other commitments

Seems an obvious dilemma to me, people with more disposable income are usually very busy earning it, which means less time to game.

In my periods of lots of time for gaming I was dirt poor so a 980ti would have been a pipe dream, now I have the money but no time, or much inclination to play,not to mention finding it hard to like most modern games.

Dicehunter · 16 May 2016 at 02:44

Personally would have waited the 3 tiny weeks for the 1070's considering they are meant to be faster than a Titan X and around the same price as a 970.

crinkleshoes · 16 May 2016 at 12:18

String said:
What you basing that info on?

Die structure... the way they segment the stream processors vs the memory controllers.

Really bad performance issues with the GTX970 - it was horrible to use and heavily exacerbated when in SLI.

melmac said:
What? where are you getting this info? Nvidia didn't do anything with the memory with the 670.

Nvidia had to cut costs to make the 970 the price it was. The slow memory was part of that cost cutting.

This time around the 1070 will have the cheapest and slowest memory, GDDR5, while the 1080 will have GDDR5x. There will no need to artificially gimp the performance of the x70 card.

I can't remember which series it was... may not have been the 670 like I said in my post - that was only off the top of my head.

But they've done it before and looks like they've done it again.

Not talking about just "slow" memory... but rather memory controller vs stream processor segmentation resulting in severe performance issues with textures popping in an out of nowhere and hitching due to the hardware structure.

melmac · 16 May 2016 at 13:11

crinkleshoes said:
Die structure... the way they segment the stream processors vs the memory controllers.

Really bad performance issues with the GTX970 - it was horrible to use and heavily exacerbated when in SLI.

I can't remember which series it was... may not have been the 670 like I said in my post - that was only off the top of my head.

But they've done it before and looks like they've done it again.

Not talking about just "slow" memory... but rather memory controller vs stream processor segmentation resulting in severe performance issues with textures popping in an out of nowhere and hitching due to the hardware structure.

I told you why Nvidia gimped the memory, to save money and to widen the performance gap between the 970 and the 980.

Again, I am asking for sources, how do you know they have gimped the memory in the 1070? There is no need for them to do it. The 1070 memory is already well below the price and performance of the memory on the 1080.

Show me some proof.

crinkleshoes · 16 May 2016 at 13:19

Wait til it comes out and you will see

And that's NOT why Nvidia gimped the memory controller. They did it so they could sell the 970 as a 4GB card when it should have been released as a 3.5GB card.

They did it to make more money from it, not to save money... if they wanted to save money, they would have sold it with 3.5GB... there's a difference there

melmac · 16 May 2016 at 13:26

crinkleshoes said:
Wait til it comes out and you will see

Nope, that statement doesn't wash. You don't know any different from anybody else and are just making stuff up. There is no logic in what you say, there is no evidence of what you are saying.

So please, tell me how you arrived at your conclusion? Or is it purely based on the 970 and a card that you can't remember the name of?

crinkleshoes · 16 May 2016 at 13:33

Details can't be provided until NDA is lifted.

Don't know why you're so angry.

You don't appear to know the actual problem with the GTX970...

I can't be bothered searching for the model number of the last card where they did the same thing... I don't have an eidetic memory, boo hoo