"Just stop oil"

Where's my GP?


Smashing petrol pumps with a hammer and facing a lengthy stretch.

The irony is this waste of space could have stopped a HGV delivering needed supplies to say a hospital because it didn't get fuel and had to divert somewhere else which meant deliveries were late and people died. Butterfly effect and all that.

At least he will get to feel what it is like to never work again now he has a criminal conviction.
 
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The irony is this waste of space could have stopped a HGV delivering needed supplies to say a hospital because it didn't get fuel and had to divert somewhere else which meant deliveries were late and people died. Butterfly effect and all that.

At least he will get to feel what it is like to never work again now he has a criminal conviction.

It's unlikely to affect his career since there was nothing that would threaten a patients well being.
 
It's unlikely to affect his career since there was nothing that would threaten a patients well being.

Potentially a misplaced spark from a steel hammer head could have blown a pump sky high although with the welcome side benefit of taking the good doctor too.

It is actually a serious breach of trust, he could equally go after the hospital boilers or generating plant next. A loose cannon,
 
Potentially a misplaced spark from a steel hammer head could have blown a pump sky high although with the welcome side benefit of taking the good doctor too.

It is actually a serious breach of trust, he could equally go after the hospital boilers or generating plant next. A loose cannon,

Yes, I suppose it did show a remarkable lack of concern for safety.
 
Potentially a misplaced spark from a steel hammer head could have blown a pump sky high although with the welcome side benefit of taking the good doctor too.

If this was true, don't you think there'd be a lot more petrol pump explosions? No. Petrol fumes in a petrol station and not anywhere near concentrated enough to cause an explosion from a hammer blow.
 
If this was true, don't you think there'd be a lot more petrol pump explosions? No. Petrol fumes in a petrol station and not anywhere near concentrated enough to cause an explosion from a hammer blow.

Very unlikely I agree as pumps will have grounding to reduce this. However considering the laws of unintended consequence, muggins law and **** happens, a customer the other side of the pump filling a plastic container maybe carelessly it is not an impossible occurrence.

The doctor is a fool and got all he deserved, would i seek his opinion. No.

This.

I’m no fan of just stop oil but the volume of utter nonsense from a minority of posters is bonkers and has little basis in reality.

As above.
 
Very unlikely I agree as pumps will have grounding to reduce this. However considering the laws of unintended consequence, muggins law and **** happens, a customer the other side of the pump filling a plastic container maybe carelessly it is not an impossible occurrence.

You could literally stand next to the pump with a lighter and wave it around and nothing would blow up. You could light a dozen candles and leave them next to the pumps until they burn down and nothing would blow up. Even if someone had been filling a container with all the accuracy of a Storm Trooper and by some freak magic he'd managed to land a spark in the puddle left, it still wouldn't have blown anything up.

There's no remotely plausible way he could have caused an explosion during his antics.

The doctor is a fool and got all he deserved, would i seek his opinion. No.

No argument from me there. Mind you, at least this nobber managed to attack something that can remotely coherently be considered a target for anti-fossil-fuel campaigning rather than vandalising cultural artefacts or stopping trains. So I guess he's one of the smarter ones.

As I've said before: if it turns out that Just Stop Oil is mostly funded by oil interests, I won't be the least bit surprised.
 
You could literally stand next to the pump with a lighter and wave it around and nothing would blow up. You could light a dozen candles and leave them next to the pumps until they burn down and nothing would blow up. Even if someone had been filling a container with all the accuracy of a Storm Trooper and by some freak magic he'd managed to land a spark in the puddle left, it still wouldn't have blown anything up.

There's no remotely plausible way he could have caused an explosion during his...

Try a welders spark igniter above a pool of petrol or a tin. It is the vapour that ignites, not the petrol. Why a rag in the mouth of a petrol tank does not need to go anywhere near the liquid petrol. Why were boxes of matches, lighters or smoking not allowed anywhere within the boundaries of oil refineries to my certain knowledge if the stuff is that damn safe. An explosion would require confinement but a heck of a fire would ensue.
 
Try a welders spark igniter above a pool of petrol or a tin. It is the vapour that ignites, not the petrol.

Yes, I know, that's why in the original post I said "Petrol fumes in a petrol station and not anywhere near concentrated enough to cause an explosion from a hammer blow". That's the entire point.
 
As above.
No, hitting a hammer on a petrol pump isn’t going to blow up a petrol. It’s pure hyperbolic nonsense.

See Mr Jack’s explanation, there is nothing to add.

There is no dispute he committed the crime and should do the time. Let’s just cut out the unintelligent clap trap and stick to how things work in the real world.
 
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i do not deny they are dicks........... but at the same time it is depressing to see how little world leaders seem to be doing. COP29 was an utter joke.

compared to most countries we are actually doing pretty well, which isnt to say we do not need to do more of course, but then you get the likes of Donald Trump.............. we really are doomed imo, i just hope its not in mine or my kids life time.
 
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The Stone Age Did Not End Because the World Ran Out of Stones​


Vandalising, casuing havock and being a nusence wont stop the wolrd using oil.
A scientifc breakthrough in a renewable abundent & cheap energy source that is signficantly cheaper than what we currently use is what will stop oil. So if you are concerned, goto unversity and research/study that. Or invest in enterprises that do. Maybe a 90%+ vs the current 18-24% effencieny, very cheap long lasting solar panel would solve nearly all domenstic demand globally, alongside a very cheap safe, long lasting high capacity battery system. It will happen, people need to figure it out. having a tantrum without a real viable alternative isnt the solution.
 
Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion are a public relations disaster for the environmental movement. The oil companies would actually be helping their cause by funding them secretly.

Firstly; their choice of targets was deeply flawed. Blocking roads and mass public transport systems just made the public hate them and gave the government the excuse it needed to crack down hard on environmental protesting.

Secondly; the messenger is as important as the message and the people these groups put front-and-centre tended to be the most unrelatable privileged trustafarians imaginable. Remember Edred Whittingham? The optics of people like that stopping working class people getting to work were terrible. If the message is "consume less" then the messenger is as important as the message. If the messenger is heir to a country estate and visited over a dozen countries on their gap year then it's easy to level accusations of hypocrisy at them. The optics of idiots like Roger Hallam defending blocking ambulances with critically ill patients in them from getting to hospital (on national TV no less) was even worse.

The tactics used need to be rethought quickly. Nothing will be achieved if the public hate environmental protestors like poison. Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage, sickeningly, were able to persuade the working class they're on their side, whereas JSO appear to be against the working class.

A scientifc breakthrough in a renewable abundent & cheap energy source that is signficantly cheaper than what we currently use is what will stop oil. So if you are concerned, goto unversity and research/study that. Or invest in enterprises that do.

Part of the problem we have is that for decades the big oil companies bought up patents for alternative energy generation technologies and put them on ice indefinitely. They also removed the urgency for technological innovation and societal change by actively covering up the link between fossil fuel derived CO2 pollution and damaging climate change. The fossil fuel industry was aware of this problem since the 1950s and chose to use PR tactics to "create doubt" about the science to avoid losing market share.

For example, ExxonMobil got its own researchers to undertake a study of anthropogenic climate change in the late 1970s and their report produced a forecast of average CO2 concentration/global temperature increases right through to the end of the 21st century. Their forecast for the mid 2020s was remarkably accurate.

We are where we are because of corporate greed and dishonesty, because quarterly profits are more important than having a stable climate.
 
Another own goal from these morons. Like others I have my suspicions they are being played and funded by the fossil fuel industry.
 
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