Just won.....£430 from a casino

So what is your amount of wins in a row then Begbie so we can try and some stats going?

Also once you start your betting after the seven spins what is the most amount you have had to bet before winning?
 
Unfortunatly wasn't counting.

I did lose a few times but obviously doing the £ then £2, most I got to was £10 and won.

If I do it tonight I will keep how many times I win.Altough it can take a while to get 7 in a row. I normally go with 6 because im impatient.
 
Begbie said:
Started off at £25 last night and within about an hour I was at £55. I recon it works if you follow what he says.
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It will work, until you get enough losses in a row to lose your full bankroll. For example, let's say it will take 12 losses in a row for you to be betting your full bankroll. The system will appear to work in 1 - (25/37)^13 = ~99.4% of sets of 13 spins. However, in 0.6% of the 13 spin sets, you will lose your full bankroll. If you keep playing, you will eventually reach enough sequential losses to lose everything, including previous winnings.
 
{{INX}} said:
Thanks for your comments, it's nice to see what someone who knows a lot more about the casino's has to say on the subject but what would you consider a good amount of win/loss results? 10/20/30 or more plays as i have tried 23 goes so far without a loss?

I do also wonder about the £100 spins, what happens next. The most i have had to go up to is £1, £2, £3, £4, £6, £9, £13, £20 = £60 and that was getting me worried till it won.
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A few hundred win/loss results is a good amount. However, if results were far from a random distribution, then a few dozen spins may be enough. Note that I don't mean win/loss over a session, I mean on any spin. How often did the spin match your prediction?

Note that Betfair offers no-zero roulette in their zero lounge, with no house edge. If you must use such a system, then Betfair is a better choice than single-zero roulette.
 
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It will be interesting to see how this goes might run through some more tonight on practise play.
Begbie you broke the system rules already with wait for 6 spins instead of 7. I must admit it does takes ages for the seven sometimes.
 
learn to play online poker guys, if you are an intelligent person and put the work in then you can reap some big rewards.

I'm a full time student and average about £60/hr over the last 6 months.
 
aka23 said:
A few hundred win/loss results is a good amount. However, if results were far from a random distribution, then a few dozen spins may be enough. Note that I don't mean win/loss over a session, I mean on any spin. How often did the spin match your prediction?
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The prediction normally comes in within the 1st 3 spins but sometimes it takes up to £60.
 
Froggeh said:
learn to play online poker guys, if you are an intelligent person and put the work in then you can reap some big rewards.

I'm a full time student and average about £60/hr over the last 6 months.
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I plan to do this at some point.

I figure there are always going to be people who play without learning how to do it properly, chances are you can take money off them :)
 
Results from real money play:
Numbers below are blocks of 12 numbers on the table. i.e. 1-12 = Block 1

No bet spins to get the seven spins: 3,2,2,1,1,3,3,2,3,2,2,2 = Bet on 1
Spins with bet: 3,1 = Win Second Spin

2,2,1,3,3,1,2,2,1,1,3,0,1,1,1 = Bet on 2
0,2 = Win Second Spin

1,2,1,3,2,2,2,3,1,1,3,1,3,2,2,2,3,1,2,3,2,2,3,3,2 = Bet on 1
2,1 = Win Second Spin

2,1,2,1,1,2,1 = Bet on 3
1,0,2,2,2,1,1,3 = Win Eighth Spin

1,3,1,0,3,3,3,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,1,2 = Bet on 3
2,3 = Win Second Spin

1,2,0,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,3,2,2,2,1,2,3,1,3,1,2,2,3,2,3,3,2 = Bet on 1
3,3,1 = Win Third Spin

1,2,0,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,3,2,2,2,1,2,3,1,3,1,2,2,3,2,3,3,2 = Bet on 1
3,3,1 = Win Third Spin

1,3,2,2,1,3,3,3,1,2,2,1,3,2,2,1,3,3,2,2,2,3,1,3,1,3,1,2,1,1,2,2,1 = Bet on 3
3 = Win First Spin

1,3,2,2,3,3,1,3,2,2,2,2,1,3,2,2,3,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3,2 = Bet on 1
2,3,3,3,2,2,1 = Win Seventh Spin

3,1,1,2,1,2,1,2 = Bet on 3
2,3 = Win Second Spin

1,3,3,1,3,2,3,2,1,1,3,3,1,3,3 = Bet on 2
2,3 = Win Second Spin

1,3,3,1,3,2,3,2,1,1,3,3,1,3,3 = Bet on 2
2 = Win First Spin

1,2,3,3,3,1,3,2,1,1,2,2,1,1 = Bet on 3
2,3 = Win Second Spin

3,1,1,1,3,2,3,1,2,1,1,1,3,3,3,2,3,2,2 = Bet on 1
2,3,2,3,1 = Win Fifth Spin

2,1,3,3,1,3,2,0,3,3,1,1,1,3,2,3,2,2,1,3,2,2,2,2,3,3 = Bet on 1
2,1 = Win Second Spin

So Far:
Wins 15 - Losses 0
 
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Out of the 7-10 plays I had I never went above 3 spins to win.

How much have you won so far?

Are you still using william hill, the table takes ages. wonder if theres any quicker roullete machines.

If only there was a bot to do this.


The system does work.
 
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{{INX}} said:
Results from real money play:
Numbers below are blocks of 12 numbers on the table. i.e. 1-12 = Block 1

No bet spins to get the seven spins: 3,2,2,1,1,3,3,2,3,2,2,2 = Bet on 1
Spins with bet: 3,1 = Win Second Spin

2,2,1,3,3,1,2,2,1,1,3,0,1,1,1 = Bet on 2
0,2 = Win Second Spin

1,2,1,3,2,2,2,3,1,1,3,1,3,2,2,2,3,1,2,3,2,2,3,3,2 = Bet on 1
2,1 = Win Second Spin

2,1,2,1,1,2,1 = Bet on 3
1,0,2,2,2,1,1,3 = Win Eighth Spin

1,3,1,0,3,3,3,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,1,2 = Bet on 3
2,3 = Win Second Spin

1,2,0,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,3,2,2,2,1,2,3,1,3,1,2,2,3,2,3,3,2 = Bet on 1
3,3,1 = Win Third Spin

1,2,0,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,3,2,2,2,1,2,3,1,3,1,2,2,3,2,3,3,2 = Bet on 1
3,3,1 = Win Third Spin

1,3,2,2,1,3,3,3,1,2,2,1,3,2,2,1,3,3,2,2,2,3,1,3,1,3,1,2,1,1,2,2,1 = Bet on 3
3 = Win First Spin

1,3,2,2,3,3,1,3,2,2,2,2,1,3,2,2,3,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3,2 = Bet on 1
2,3,3,3,2,2,1 = Win Seventh Spin

3,1,1,2,1,2,1,2 = Bet on 3
2,3 = Win Second Spin

1,3,3,1,3,2,3,2,1,1,3,3,1,3,3 = Bet on 2
2,3 = Win Second Spin

1,3,3,1,3,2,3,2,1,1,3,3,1,3,3 = Bet on 2
2 = Win First Spin

1,2,3,3,3,1,3,2,1,1,2,2,1,1 = Bet on 3
2,3 = Win Second Spin

3,1,1,1,3,2,3,1,2,1,1,1,3,3,3,2,3,2,2 = Bet on 1
2,3,2,3,1 = Win Fifth Spin

2,1,3,3,1,3,2,0,3,3,1,1,1,3,2,3,2,2,1,3,2,2,2,2,3,3 = Bet on 1
2,1 = Win Second Spin

So Far:
Wins 15 - Losses 0
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I count a win on first spin as 1 win, a win on 2nd spin as 1 win and 1 loss, a win on 3rd spin as 1 win and 2 losses. Adding up the results, I get 15 wins and 30 losses in 45 spins. The expected result is 45 * (12/37) = 14.6 wins and 45 * (25/37) = 30.4 losses. The predictions show no improvement at all over random guesses.

The progressive betting system will allow you to make a gain over the short term, but eventually you will lose it all when you get enough sequential losses. I recommend doing a Google search on Martingale betting or progressive betting.
 
Begbie said:
Out of the 7-10 plays I had I never went above 3 spins to win.

How much have you won so far?

Are you still using william hill, the table takes ages. wonder if theres any quicker roullete machines.

If only there was a bot to do this.


The system does work.
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Yeah they were all on will hill but i am looking for another table elsewhere if there are any that have turbo mode like Blackjack it would be nice.
Not won a lot as they are the only real money plays so far i think its was about £25 profit in just over an hour.
 
aka23 said:
I count a win on first spin as 1 win, a win on 2nd spin as 1 win and 1 loss, a win on 3rd spin as 1 win and 2 losses. Adding up the results, I get 15 wins and 30 losses in 45 spins. The expected result is 45 * (12/37) = 14.6 wins and 45 * (25/37) = 30.4 losses. The predictions show no improvement at all over random guesses.

The progressive betting system will allow you to make a gain over the short term, but eventually you will lose it all when you get enough sequential losses. I recommend doing a Google search on Martingale betting or progressive betting.
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I count it as an overall win/no loss as you up your bet everytime to componsate for this. As you can see from above he is winning and I have also won doing it.

I agree it may flop, but gambling is still gambling.
 
aka23 said:
I count a win on first spin as 1 win, a win on 2nd spin as 1 win and 1 loss, a win on 3rd spin as 1 win and 2 losses. Adding up the results, I get 15 wins and 30 losses in 45 spins. The expected result is 45 * (12/37) = 14.6 wins and 45 * (25/37) = 30.4 losses. The predictions show no improvement at all over random guesses.

The progressive betting system will allow you to make a gain over the short term, but eventually you will lose it all when you get enough sequential losses. I recommend doing a Google search on Martingale betting or progressive betting.
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I have already read briefly about the other similar systems as you mentioned. Until this system takes my money without winning it back then i will count it as a loss. I am not saying that this system will always work but for now it is working exactly as the web site said it would.
What you have said does make sense to me except for the last part. I cannot see that if i kept making random guesses with or without the 7 spins that the outcome would be the same as what i have been doing (£25 up).
 
Begbie said:
I count it as an overall win/no loss as you up your bet everytime to componsate for this. As you can see from above he is winning and I have also won doing it.

I agree it may flop, but gambling is still gambling.
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Upping your bet to win back losses only works, if you have infinite bankroll and are playing at a casino with infinite table limits. What happens when you are betting everything and cannot up your bet any more? What happens if that bet is a loss?

The betting strategy does not give you an edge or change the house edge. Depending on bankroll, the betting system may be similar to a bet that pays +1 99% of the time and pays -100 1% the time. The bet looks great the 99% of the time when you are getting +1£. It doesn't look as good when you finally get the 1% result and lose your £100 bankroll.
 
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That is what i still want to know based on this 7 spin system. What is the most amount of times in a row it will lose for, so far on my tests (I know so far it's only 15 plays) it's 8 spins before the win comes in.

Aka what is your favorite way to make money from the casino's, Blackjack Bonus Bagging or something else?
 
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{{INX}} said:
Aka what is your favorite way to make money from the casino's, Blackjack Bonus Bagging or something else?
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My specialty and my main interest is bonus bagging. My website focuses on bonus bagging and has been mentioned in this thread (see signature).

However, there are plenty of other ways to gain an edge at online casinos. Someone mentioned poker a few posts back, which can great, if you are skilled player and enjoy the game. Sportsbetting is also an option, with free bets, arbitrage opportunities, and similar. If you get creative, there are numerous other options.
 
I have been to your site quite a lot in the past before meeting you here, which i have found very helpful.
I was asking more along the lines of what do you personally prefer at the casino's for bagging the bonuses? Blackjack or another game?
I do match betting also for the bonuses which i do enjoy.
I am also still looking for other ways to make money on the net but have not yet found anything that suits me.
 
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