Keeping up with the Markles

SpeedFreak said:
I think you've misunderstood me, I was pointing out the hypocritical aspect of Harry's statement, not having a go at the Queen.
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Of course it is.

Harry has enough brain to know it's suicide for his wifes plans to fish for sympathy if their smear on the entire royal family touches the queen.

There may not be a lot of support for her family but the queen might as well be on a pedestal a mile high.
 
dowie said:
He didn't really - he's paid for his opinion but because she's a "black" woman and this involves mental health then it suddenly becomes super sensitive...

In fact, the whole thing becomes some semi-woke issue just because of the angles being spun there - ordinarily a woe is me story about a famous actress and her aristocrat husband having to live off his trust fund would be absurd but how in those angles and you're supposed to be hugely sympathetic with them etc..

I don't see why multiples things can't be plausible here - that an unnamed member of the Royal Family is an out of touch racist, that Meghan is manipulative and a bully and that Harry is a bit thick/naive and has been completely played. This will absolutely blow up in his face if they ever get divorced.

Its quite telling that she didn't really have any friends or family at her wedding, she had her mum, cast members from suits and loads of celebrities, including Opera (who she'd only ever met once before). The first husband got ditched not long after she landed the role in suits, no cheating or other issues involved. Friends seemingly got ditched too.

The diva/bullying isn't just someone leaking gossip to the tabloids - it's multiple people, including journalists witnessing a staff member being reduced to tears in Australia after being scolded by Meghan, two PAs quitting in short succession and apparently a whole bunch of complaints to the palace from others. It wasn't just the bridesmaid dresses incident that caused an argument with Kate - they also apparently fell out over.... the way Meghan had spoken to a member of Kate's staff.

Harry has never been too bright - he went to one of the best schools in the country and came away with only two A-Levels - a B in art and a D in geography (only the latter one involved actually sitting an exam) his B grade is suspect as his art teacher claims she was instructed by the school to help him cheat. That apparent cheating is the only reason he even managed to scrape the min requirements to become an Army Officer - he was apparently well-liked in that role but realistically, he knew he wasn't going to go any further than Captian - that would involve passing exams again! Or having some position where he didn't follow a normal career anymore and he somehow got a bunch of actual promotions (not just appointments/ceremonial roles) he'd not earned.

That they were surprised the RCMP would no longer provide security to them is baffling, they're no longer working Royals yet they're expecting Canadian taxpayers to just cough up for their security.

Likewise Meghan's claims about not having anyone teach her what is expected - she didn't know the national anthem (as if that is difficult to google herself) or she didn't know basic stuff about royal protocol, expected behaviour etc... Harry only thought to ask her if she knew how to curtsey when in the car going to meet the Queen for the first time... He's a bit dim but she could have asked him about all of this stuff or indeed he could have been proactive and told her what she needed to know.

The whole thing was a big publicity play for them - being a victim. race etc.. are big things these days, especially in America - they played right into that, Harry has "done the work" etc.. fits neatly with a popular view in the US of the Royals being out of touch etc... (which isn't necessarily too far wrong). But essentially Harry, being a bit dim, has allowed his whole family to be thrown under the bus for the sake of raising their profile further as some power couple and gaining more popularity in the states. As much as he's tried to separate his accusations re: "the firm" rather than individual relatives the obvious damage has been done.
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Real talk
 
dowie said:
In fact, the whole thing becomes some semi-woke issue just because of the angles being spun there - ordinarily a woe is me story about a famous actress and her aristocrat husband having to live off his trust fund would be absurd but how in those angles and you're supposed to be hugely sympathetic with them etc..
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Oh its far more than that the ITV chief executive (and former head of The Guardian) Dame Carolyn McCall speaking about Piers' comments saying he did not believe the Duchess of Sussex, she said: “I completely believe what she (Meghan) said. It’s important everyone does.”

So there you have it, you must believe everything she says, no dissent on will be tolerated. Meghan's word is law and every word is to be believed, no exceptions.

And thats not all the Society of Editors the industry body which represents the UK press's boss Ian Murray was forced to resign after previously defending it against Harry's claims stating that an "attack" on it was "not acceptable" without providing evidence and facing fierce attacks from amongst others including predictably The Guardian stepped down after which the society put out a statement that it "did not reflect what we all know: that there is a lot of work to be done in the media to improve diversity and inclusion".

So there you have it, requiring evidence is no longer a requisite to defend its own members it must meekly bow to wokeism and issue wishy washy statements about "diversity", "inclusion" and must do better.

So if thats not a clampdown on free speech and no deviation will be tolerated from whatever dogma the thought police deem appropriate I don't know what is honestly.
 
SpeedFreak said:
It's weird that they slam the institution but not the Queen. Ultimately she is the boss and if it is a dysfunctional institution then she is at least partly responsible.
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I don't think it's weird. The Queen is very popular and very old, so targetting her would be bad for their publicity campaign.
 
The Markles are a spectacular train wreck, entire family appears to be utterly dysfunctional. What a wild ride it's been!
 
I'm in agreement with poor Piers on this one who is yet another victim of political correctness.
What a cheap trick by Meghan to pull the race card and, as for her mental state, she's hardly on the brink.
Utter tripe comes from her mouth and, let's be honest, she's pretty talentless.
 
kully1972 said:
I'm in agreement with poor Piers on this one who is yet another victim of political correctness.
What a cheap trick by Meghan to pull the race card and, as for her mental state, she's hardly on the brink.
Utter tripe comes from her mouth and, let's be honest, she's pretty talentless.
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Can we stick to facts?

Harry was the one who confirmed somebody in the family was questioning how dark his child would be.

And Meghan said she felt suicidal on one specific day in 2019, not now.

My wife has been at really low points when she felt suicidal, but that was years ago. She hasn't had those thoughts for ages.
 
kully1972 said:
I'm in agreement with poor Piers on this one who is yet another victim of political correctness.
What a cheap trick by Meghan to pull the race card and, as for her mental state, she's hardly on the brink.
Utter tripe comes from her mouth and, let's be honest, she's pretty talentless.
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How on earth do you know she wasn't on the brink? What a ridiculous thing to say.
 
Well this has given all the talking heads in the world free reign (get it?) for a week or so. The syndication income for TV rights possibly exceeds the superbowl :p. Two fragile people previously used and abused by world press and social media have effectively given permission for it all to happen again.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Oh its far more than that the ITV chief executive (and former head of The Guardian) Dame Carolyn McCall speaking about Piers' comments saying he did not believe the Duchess of Sussex, she said: “I completely believe what she (Meghan) said. It’s important everyone does.”

So there you have it, you must believe everything she says, no dissent on will be tolerated. Meghan's word is law and every word is to be believed, no exceptions.

And thats not all the Society of Editors the industry body which represents the UK press's boss Ian Murray was forced to resign after previously defending it against Harry's claims stating that an "attack" on it was "not acceptable" without providing evidence and facing fierce attacks from amongst others including predictably The Guardian stepped down after which the society put out a statement that it "did not reflect what we all know: that there is a lot of work to be done in the media to improve diversity and inclusion".

So there you have it, requiring evidence is no longer a requisite to defend its own members it must meekly bow to wokeism and issue wishy washy statements about "diversity", "inclusion" and must do better.

So if thats not a clampdown on free speech and no deviation will be tolerated from whatever dogma the thought police deem appropriate I don't know what is honestly.
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There is a litany of evidence of the press attacks and racism. He resigned as he handled it incorrectly in the face of the mountain of evidence.
 
Joxeon said:
I think if she ever does divorce him then the British public or royal family are the least of his worries.
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That is a dead cert

Oprah has already got the date set for the tell all divorce interview with Meghan, that will be in a couple of years and a nice little earner too.
 
chroniclard said:
There is a litany of evidence of the press attacks and racism. He resigned as he handled it incorrectly in the face of the mountain of evidence.
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Also:

More than 160 journalists of colour and the editors of the Guardian, Financial Times and HuffPost have objected to the statement, written by the SoE’s executive director, Ian Murray, which argued that Meghan’s claims that parts of the media were racist were “not acceptable”.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/mar/09/society-of-editors-claim-uk-media-not-racist-laughable
 
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