Kerbal Space Program

Anyone have a guide for this at all? I seem to be able to just build a rocket big enough to get me just out of the atmosphere, but then I fall back. If I build it with more solid fuel rockets or liquid fuel tanks it seems too heavy to even take off, so I'm not sure how to get more boost out of it and still leave me with plenty of fuel to fly somewhere once out of the atmosphere.
 
Anyone have a guide for this at all? I seem to be able to just build a rocket big enough to get me just out of the atmosphere, but then I fall back. If I build it with more solid fuel rockets or liquid fuel tanks it seems too heavy to even take off, so I'm not sure how to get more boost out of it and still leave me with plenty of fuel to fly somewhere once out of the atmosphere.

This is my moon lander. I reckon if i stop wasting fuel, i might be able to get back to earth, but I haven't landed with working engine yet so hard to tell.

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hopefully those pics with the stage lists you'll be able to work out what is where.
The big engine cluster is first stage, then the small centre engine is second stage, third stage is the mun lander.

Next is some basic stuff to obtain orbit you need to bank the craft all the way over, so its on the line between blue and brown.
with small ships you can do this in the atmosphere when your around 40-50k. and you'll hit an orbit about 70k ish.
However big rockets do not like manoeuvring and like it even less in atmosphere. So on that above design I wait till I'm totally out of atmosphere (still on first stage) you also want to throttle engines down towards end as once your in high atmosphere and burning fuel, it gains speed stupidly fast.

so once you are out the atmosphere and trying to keep sub 1000m/s vertical. You want to bank it all the way over. To meet the Mun, you need to be 270 or 90 heading.
once its banked over press M to go to map view and bring up huds. Bottom middle. once you obtain orbit. throttle all the way back to off.

Next important thing to remeber is when you throttle up and your pointing at the green circle with straight lines, your orbit grows on the opposite side.
keep the throttle on till it just intersects the moons orbit, then throttle off. now its just a matter of hitting time speed and waiting till you and Mun line up. this may take a fair few orbits. Eventually you will get a fairly straight line. at this point stop the time shift. you then need to turn rocket round, till you get the other green circle, one with lines at 120 degress to each other, then throttle up, the green line will eventually shrinkand encircle the moon, you want to keep going untill it actually goes into the Mun.

Throttle back off. wait till you get to about 200,000m height then slowly start throttling back up. Same green circle as last step. then its a matter of trying to not waste fuel and hit the floor at sub 10m/s

I'll relaunch and take pics. or actually is there a free video capture?
 
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Getting back from the Mun is harder than it looks. Sure, it doesn't take much fuel but it is incredibly difficult to know when to spend it. You get into an orbit you might take you home but then you're going so slowly that you get temporarily recaptured by the Mun, which ruins everything and i've never had enough fuel to fix it.

It would really help if the orbital view actually showed you the path you take due to mavity, rather than EITHER your orbit of Kerbin OR your orbit of the Mun.
 
dang it, i didn't hit time shift fast enough, however i survived flying through the Mun.
and now in a silly big orbit.

:( you have to pay for fraps..

Look on youtube plenty of tutorials.
 
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It's really just one of those things that you have to try a few times to get a feel for it. Even then, nobody's perfect. The saying "a good landing is one you can walk away from, a GREAT landing is one you can take off from" is definitely applicable.
 
:( you have to pay for fraps..

Apparently the beta of MSI afterburner will do it.


You get into an orbit you might take you home but then you're going so slowly that you get temporarily recaptured by the Mun, which ruins everything and i've never had enough fuel to fix it.

I've found that a really elongated orbit of the Mun works well: if you line it up so you go flying out to one side of the Mun then as it continues it's orbit of Kerbin you'll get captured by Kerbin's mavity instead. Trying to go straight for Kerbin never works well for me.
 
Anyone else on .14? I pre ordered (at the inflated price :p) but as usual there's a lot of trouble downloading. Problem here is that since it's not available to everyone it's not really okay to mirror it :(
 
Not yet, just got back from all day session. Will be getting it when I can get myself out of bed in the morning. Currently on .14x4 but .14 been properly released now.
 
Just got it, the downloads seem a lot better tonight.

Can't figure out how to lower the landing legs though. Am I being a muppet, or is it not actually explained anywhere?

EDIT: Ah, you have to hit G to get them to extend. They're too short though, they don't reach the ground if you've got one of the liquid engines at the bottom. Derp!
 
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There are in 0.14, yeah, but like I said they're a tad useless. Apparently it's a bug and it'll be fixed at some point.

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There are in 0.14, yeah, but like I said they're a tad useless. Apparently it's a bug and it'll be fixed at some point.

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just put some decoupling struts on first.

woot landed on moon with 1.5 tanks of fuel left, forgot to add parachute though :(, got down to 100,000m before decoupling and using last stage.

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:( got enough fuel to get back to earth, but took off in wrong direction, correct plain. But moon caught back up with me and threw me off course. I need to take off and fly away from moon. i went 90d so I'll try 270 instead.
 
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just put some decoupling struts on first.

Yeah, but that kinda defeats the purpose of having struts specifically designed to be used for landing :p

Which way do you try getting back to earth Glaucus? The lander I use has only one tank of fuel and there's usually some left over when I get back.
 
Yeah, but that kinda defeats the purpose of having struts specifically designed to be used for landing :p

Which way do you try getting back to earth Glaucus? The lander I use has only one tank of fuel and there's usually some left over when I get back.

not entirely as struts aren't long enough and you still need something to land on.

so far just going into moons orbit, then once in moons orbit boosting up when your on the opposite side of the orbit to earth. last time i messed up. Just landed again. Going to try doing 270 orbit, hopefully that'll put me behind the moon.

have they fixed the parachute bug? in 0.14 official.

:( lost the stage tool bar and engine wont throttle up.
 
so far just going into moons orbit, then once in moons orbit boosting up when your on the opposite side of the orbit to earth.

I tried that once or twice and never got it to work. Try getting into orbit around the moon and then boosting up when you're facing the earth. Your orbit will go way off to the left of the moon. As the moon continues orbiting the earth and you go off to the moon's left it'll bring you very close to the earth.

have they fixed the parachute bug? in 0.14 official.

Didn't realise there was one, I've not had any problems with it.
 
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