He's been found not guilty by a jury of his peers, its even more alarming folks are more than happy to dismiss a court verdict because of their own personal fee fees.
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Yeah I can imagine the extremists noticing our leniency and acting accordingly.
Yes but the verdict is more a case of saying there's not enough evidence to state he's guilty rather than he's innocent.
He may well be innocent though.
Pretty sure he recanted that statement and said he was coerced by his publicist and regretted it
Yes but the courts generally don't prove innocence, just a lack of proven guilt. Anyway, I agree it should absolutely be innocent until proven guilty but these days thats mostly forgotten and he's pretty much being treated as if he were guilty with regards to his career and reputation.
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Presumed innocent until found guilty, but that presumption is why people are found "not guilty" rather than pronounced "innocent"... and that presumption still may later be found inaccurate.
Indeed. This seems too complex for some, but OJ Simpson wrote “if…. I DID IT” and people understood he was guilty despite being found innocent in criminal court. I’m guessing it’s just a low level ability to grasp difficult concepts.
How many people do you know could be convinced to apologise for being a creepy pedo rapist if they didn’t do it.
He recanted it when he was in civil court being sued.
amber heard fans all over again.
It's not guilty / guilty because the burdon of proving a crime has been committed by the individual lies with the prosecution.
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But, but, he’s guilt by the social media trial….
What a sad world we live in.
Some of his quotes in court sounded pretty fair and reasonable tbh.
Hope he sues the crap out of those liars and the companies that dumped him.
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It's quite interesting, tho.Edit: Nevermind, can't be bothered to discuss it as it's not that important
I was going to reply to you to say that, technically, being presumed innocent would be more accurate than being declared innocent, before the facts were established.
Only the person themselves, and whomever they were with at the time of the alleged crime, would know that they were innocent. Everyone else would presume they were innocent, until the facts were established. Without any facts being known, nobody could declare another innocent. And neither could they declare them guilty.
He literally admitted to it in other cases and apologised to victims. It wasn’t a social media trial, it was people accepting victims coming forward, him admitting it, and the consequences of it.
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Didn't he admit to sexually assaulting a young male some time ago, then giving the excuse that he believed the male was hiding his homosexuality so thought that by actively being sexual with him would force him to 'come out' or am I imagining that?
This is the statement he put out about it in 2017
"I have a lot of respect and admiration for Anthony Rapp as an actor. I'm beyond horrified to hear his story. I honestly do not remember the encounter, it would have been over 30 years ago. But if I did behave as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior, and I am sorry for the feelings he describes having carried with him all these years.
"This story has encouraged me to address other things about my life. I know that there are stories out there about me and that some have been fuelled by the fact that I have been so protective of my privacy. As those closest to me know, in my life I have had relationships with both men and women. I have loved and had romantic encounters with men throughout my life, and I choose now to live as a gay man. I want to deal with this honestly and openly and that starts with examining my own behavior.
- Kevin Spacey"
"I have a lot of respect and admiration for Anthony Rapp as an actor. I'm beyond horrified to hear his story. I honestly do not remember the encounter, it would have been over 30 years ago. But if I did behave as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior, and I am sorry for the feelings he describes having carried with him all these years.
"This story has encouraged me to address other things about my life. I know that there are stories out there about me and that some have been fuelled by the fact that I have been so protective of my privacy. As those closest to me know, in my life I have had relationships with both men and women. I have loved and had romantic encounters with men throughout my life, and I choose now to live as a gay man. I want to deal with this honestly and openly and that starts with examining my own behavior.
- Kevin Spacey"
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This movie is set to be released next month
(not sure if you see him in the movie or it just his voice )
'Control' (2023) - Theatrical Trailer (Official) starring Kevin Spacey
Theatrical Trailer for Kevin Spacey's 'Control' (2023)Starring:Kevin SpaceyLauren MetcalfeMark HamptonWritten & Directed by: Gene FallaizeProduced by: Adam S...
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