Keyboard/Mouse Adapter Good or Bad.

Glacius

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Hey All,

Well just wondering whats the general consensus is when it comes to using an adapter on the PS4/Xbox One, basically I have been a PC gamer for years about 18 actually so I am obviously very comfortable with using a mouse and keyboard, slowly but surely over the years all my mates have moved over to console gaming and left behind the PC wagon, apart from me all lonely on the PC :p

So couple of years ago I went over the the Xbox 360 and I can't even put into words how much I hated using a controller I just was beyond useless I gave it a couple of months and simply gave up, but with all mates being on voice coms I knew I miss chatting if I stuck to PC so I eventually got one of these:

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and well after these console gaming changed for me as it felt exaclty like playing on a PC as the company who make XIM use special profiles "Smart Translators" for each game to make it feel 1:1 movement from the mouse to the game.

With the nextgen out they are in the process of making there new model the XIM 4 and have just today confirmed this will work on the PS4 and Xbox One.

What are peoples honest views on using a mouse and keyboard on a console? Games like Call of Duty and Battlefield etc.

My view is you can only aim as fast or turn as fast as the game will allow, this XIM adapter will not let you exceed these limits so the difference between a player on max sensitivity on a controller and a mouse and keyboard isn't anything but I am guessing its when accuracy comes into it that mouse could have an advantage.

Some think its cheating others say just play with whatever form on control you feel most comfortable with and mine will defiantly be using a mouse and keyboard via this new XIM 4 adapter once its released.

This is the XIM 4 if anyone is curious:

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It's a simple decision you need to make:

prefer KB and mouse - then game on a pc

want to use a controller - then game on a console or pc

want to use a KB and mouse on a console - unless the game supports it natively, it is cheating, as the XIM pretends it is a controller and mimics it being one so it's undetectable.
 
Mr Men said:
Cheating TBH, does not take that long to get used to a control pad.
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Psycho Sonny said:
It's a simple decision you need to make:

prefer KB and mouse - then game on a pc

want to use a controller - then game on a console or pc

want to use a KB and mouse on a console - unless the game supports it natively, it is cheating, as the XIM pretends it is a controller and mimics it being one so it's undetectable.
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This, This. 1000x This.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
It's a simple decision you need to make:

prefer KB and mouse - then game on a pc

want to use a controller - then game on a console or pc

want to use a KB and mouse on a console - unless the game supports it natively, it is cheating, as the XIM pretends it is a controller and mimics it being one so it's undetectable.
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About the most sensible thing he's said, I agree with him too.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
It's a simple decision you need to make:

prefer KB and mouse - then game on a pc

want to use a controller - then game on a console or pc

want to use a KB and mouse on a console - unless the game supports it natively, it is cheating, as the XIM pretends it is a controller and mimics it being one so it's undetectable.
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In MP I agree to an extent. In Sp I don't see the problem. I also don't subscribe to the want a KB&M use a PC. Some prefer to buy a console they don't have to upgrade and use it for 8 years playing the latest games.

If I was MS I would make a KB&M myself for gaming that could be detected and give them their own lobbies. Make it half the cost of the XIM and destroy all but the hardcore of cheaters.
 
dannyjo22 said:
In MP I agree to an extent. In Sp I don't see the problem. I also don't subscribe to the want a KB&M use a PC. Some prefer to buy a console they don't have to upgrade and use it for 8 years playing the latest games.
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I agree with this, who cares what controls you use in SP? Lets not forget that we play games for enjoyment; struggling to use a controller when you're used to MKB detracts a lot from that enjoyment, so if the OP can play the same games using a MKB and so enjoy playing them, what's the problem?

I can sympathise, as a long time PC gamer, I mostly game these days on PS3 (due to circumstances rather than by choice :p), I still don't really enjoy playing fast paced shooters on it, as it gets frustrating when I know how much better I could be with "proper" controls :p

As such, rather than get a next gen console I'll be building a new PC this summer ^^
 
No issue with someone using them in SP. It's when they use them to gain advantage over someone playing in MP. And they do gain an advantage. It's akin to cheating. Simples.
 
Mr Men said:
Cheating TBH, does not take that long to get used to a control pad.
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Not really about getting used to it - it just feels horrid if you've spent a lot of time playing FPS games with proper freelook, etc. but as your getting an unfair advantage over people who are using a controller its not really the right thing to do but I imagine there are more and more people doing it :S
 
iirc War Thunder on the PS4 supports a Mouse and Keyboard natively, using it on that for multiplayer IMO is perfectly fine.

Using it in a game where there is no native support is cheating, cheating in single player should be obvious to everyone is fine, in fact it usually makes gaming more enjoyable (oh how I loved when GTA had cheats like all guns, etc).

Chances are if your willing to spend £100+ for a XIM your doing it for an advantage in multiplayer rather than not liking controllers.

Controllers imo are far easier to use than a KB and mouse, they are more natural and offer more degrees of movement and analogue movement, etc. Saying your used to one over the other isn't a valid excuse, learn to use a controller or buy a PC, simples.

So it's okay so long as the game natively supports it or single player, multiplayer is a big no no if not natively supported, it's like shooting ducks in a barrel.
 
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No one here that can use a pad would ever say they wouldnt prefer to use a KB&M, but accept that thats a concession they made when they bought a console and/or a particular game.

The need for things like XIM is due to either laziness or stupidity whichever way you like to paint it. I might sound caustic but that really is the crux of the issue...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Controllers imo are far easier to use than a KB and mouse, they are more natural and offer more degrees of movement and analogue movement, etc. Saying your used to one over the other isn't a valid excuse, learn to use a controller or buy a PC, simples.
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Depends on the game a bit but thats utter rubbish when it comes to FPS games no 2 ways about it.
 
Rroff said:
Depends on the game a bit but thats utter rubbish when it comes to FPS games no 2 ways about it.
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KB and Mouse is superior to a controller but it doesn't make it easier to use.

Controllers are one of the simplest input devices to use, there isn't much of a learning curve.

Saying you cannot use a controller and KB and mouse is easier to use is like saying you cannot use a remote control for your tv and that hand gestures are easier.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
KB and Mouse is superior to a controller but it doesn't make it easier to use.

Controllers are one of the simplest input devices to use, there isn't much of a learning curve.

Saying you cannot use a controller and KB and mouse is easier to use is like saying you cannot use a remote control for your tv and that hand gestures are easier.
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I don't disagree with that - but once you do spend a lot of time playing FPS games on keyboard + mouse there is no way to replicate that freedom of movement with a controller - even if you become competent with a controller you will still feel restricted and less in control compared to what you can manage with a keyboard and mouse.

EDIT: Not sure my posts come over quite right - I don't really care which is better, etc. horses for courses and all that if people are happy using a controller on consoles thats fine with me, I just don't find it an enjoyable experience personally and stick to the PC for FPS games due to that, other stuff like racing games I find fine on consoles.
 
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Yeah well thats the reason spouted for a lot of people who want to use a KB and Mouse on a console is that they somehow cannot use a controller or are terrible with a controller, etc.

If they feel that way then the answer isn't to buy XIM, it's to game on PC.

using a device like XIM is as bad as using an infinite ammo cheat whilst playing an FPS game multiplayer online, it gives you a huge advantage over the rest of the competition who are on a pretty level playing field in terms of controls, graphics, etc.

I prefer a mouse and KB for FPS, as much as I would like to use one on a console I think it's cheating since I only play online multiplayer and everyone using a controller would be at a disadvantage, me being crap at FPS isn't a valid excuse either.

Otherwise why not give crappy formula 1 drivers faster and better cars than the decent formula one drivers?

People try and find an excuse to use an XIM in online FPS multiplayer when there isn't one, well not a legit one anyway.
 
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