Khat to be banned

Energize · 22 Jun 2014 at 16:07

mattyg said:
Thousands of jobs?.....In this country?
Source?

3rd post has the link.

Tefal · 22 Jun 2014 at 16:11

hurfdurf said:
"The war on drugs killed my daughter"

http://www.theguardian.com/society/...anne-marie-cockburn-martha-fernback?CMP=fb_gu

title should be "silly bint takes massive dose for first time and overdoses"

She was an idiot plain and simple.

CREATIVE!11 · 22 Jun 2014 at 16:40

Tefal said:
title should be "silly bint takes massive dose for first time and overdoses"

She was an idiot plain and simple.

Harsh but true,

She took massive dose of MDMA.

thep02 · 22 Jun 2014 at 17:06

CREATIVE!11 said:
Harsh but true,

She took massive dose of MDMA.

Yup because it was illegal she couldn't go to boots and buy a sensible dose of well made regulated taxed E for a couple of quid, so instead of win win for society we get multi lose for society and especially her family, what a great way to run things.

CREATIVE!11 · 22 Jun 2014 at 17:25

thep02 said:
Yup because it was illegal she couldn't go to boots and buy a sensible dose of well made regulated taxed E for a couple of quid, so instead of win win for society we get multi lose for society and especially her family, what a great way to run things.

hard one to call dude,

Most people can't even control themselves enough to stop reaching for a snickers bar, just imagine if E was legal.

People would go around frying their brains.

Tefal · 22 Jun 2014 at 17:25

thep02 said:
Yup because it was illegal she couldn't go to boots and buy a sensible dose of well made regulated taxed E for a couple of quid, so instead of win win for society we get multi lose for society and especially her family, what a great way to run things.

errr? she bought very high quality mdma then took masses of it.

if shed of got it from boots shed have had a similar percentage purity (need binder for the pill) and taken the same amount, or more as she could have afforded more, and died anyway.

just like those shops sell those well made regulated and taxed bottles of alcohol with dosage instructions on the back, that everyone consumes in sensible doses?

wait **** that;s not what happens is it?

CREATIVE!11 · 22 Jun 2014 at 17:35

Tefal said:
just like those shops sell those well made regulated and taxed bottles of alcohol with dosage instructions on the back, that everyone consumes in sensible doses?

wait **** that;s not what happens is it?

Precisely.

Self control is the problem here, people are the issue.

dowie · 22 Jun 2014 at 17:51

Tefal said:
just like those shops sell those well made regulated and taxed bottles of alcohol with dosage instructions on the back, that everyone consumes in sensible doses?

whether people chose to consume it in healthy doses or not the govt does regularly publish health information regarding consumption guidelines and it is sold with the alcohol content clearly labelled - you can choose to consume it in moderation

Tefal · 22 Jun 2014 at 17:53

dowie said:
whether people chose to consume it in healthy doses or not the govt does regularly publish health information regarding consumption guidelines and it is sold with the alcohol content clearly labelled - you can choose to consume it in moderation

yes which was my point. she took a huge dose and died would have happened if it was legal or not. it was not the fault of the drug being illegal it was thew fault of her being an idiot.

try reading the quoted posts before you try to argue against the very point your making.

cainer · 22 Jun 2014 at 17:59

banning it will just drive the price up, it wont stop people doing what they do
once the price goes up criminal gangs will get involved in bringing it into the country
just let people do what they choose to do ffs.....

Eurofighter · 22 Jun 2014 at 18:23

Should be illegal. Isn't good for you.

Uncle Petey · 22 Jun 2014 at 18:24

Eurofighter said:
Should be illegal. Isn't good for you.

So where does that argument stop?

cainer · 22 Jun 2014 at 18:25

Uncle Petey said:
So where does that argument stop?

it stops when the Gov are able to get tax from it

Uncle Petey · 22 Jun 2014 at 18:26

There is that...

ak22 · 22 Jun 2014 at 18:41

cainer said:
it stops when the Gov are able to get tax from it

Well said if they cared about "health" why not ban cigarettes

Tefal · 22 Jun 2014 at 18:42

cainer said:
it stops when the Gov are able to get tax from it

so by that logic why are all the other drugs banned they'd be massive sources of tax income.

Will21st · 22 Jun 2014 at 18:46

Another Prohibition... another waste of Time.....

Will21st · 22 Jun 2014 at 18:53

Tefal said:
so by that logic why are all the other drugs banned they'd be massive sources of tax income.

They would be,and one Day they will be... we're not quite there yet though.

Fluke? · 22 Jun 2014 at 20:15

*not read most of thread* :cool:

Not sure what all the brouhaha is over this..
Khat is banned in the vast majority of countries and is renound for causing its users to be extremely violent or zombies. Neither of which are considered particularly desirable traits the last time I looked.

I suppose I can see the freedom of choice argument about this but making the assumption the 90% of the comments in this thread have been made my people that have never actually heard of the drug, let alone taken it before is quite droll.

hurfdurf · 22 Jun 2014 at 20:27

Tefal said:
errr? she bought very high quality mdma then took masses of it.

if shed of got it from boots shed have had a similar percentage purity (need binder for the pill) and taken the same amount, or more as she could have afforded more, and died anyway.

just like those shops sell those well made regulated and taxed bottles of alcohol with dosage instructions on the back, that everyone consumes in sensible doses?

wait **** that;s not what happens is it?

But she would have been far more likely to be informed of the right amount to take, and therefore almost certainly be alive today.