Kick ass system in the making. I am so good!

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Am I right in thinking that nobody does SLI, that overclocking only ever adds a few percent anyway and that with a tiny hard drive he doesn't actually need a bluray writer ?

If so, halve the cost of the case, motherboard, power supply and the fan and buy an i7, so really that's starting from scratch again.

I swear building PC's these days is nothing to do with function but all about following geek fashion - spend £115 on a PSU, that was daft 8 years ago and it's daft now.
 
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bitslice said:
*wanders into here by accident*

Am I right in thinking that nobody does SLI, that overclocking only ever adds a few percent anyway and that with a tiny hard drive he doesn't actually need a bluray writer ?

If so, halve the cost of the case, motherboard, power supply and the fan and buy an i7, so really that's starting from scratch again.

I swear building PC's these days is nothing to do with function but all about following geek fashion - spend £115 on a PSU, that was daft 8 years ago and it's daft now.
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bits you got me wrong buddy. My kick ass system is all about function. Funcation as it will be for next 5 year easy.

How? by the use of i7 cpu's that i put in this high end board and gfx that support x16 pci... once the right time is here.

As you look at the future you will see my build is way ahead of current time.
 
arekgreenman888 said:
bits you got me wrong buddy. My kick ass system is all about function. Funcation as it will be for next 5 year easy.

How? by the use of i7 cpu's that i put in this high end board and gfx that support x16 pci... once the right time is here.

As you look at the future you will see my build is way ahead of current time.
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/facepalm

Your system if anything is behind current times by a long shot.

It wont play the latest demanding games at max res on ultra either, better get back to the drawing board with that comment.


There are three types of users within the computing world:

  • A.Knows they know nothing
  • B. Thinks they know everything, but knows nothing
  • C. Competent users and know it

You well and truly fall into category B.

My system is now behind the times, but it makes yours look like its from the stone age, please do some research when building your first computer.


Oh an btw... Corsair and Coolermaster dont make CPUs...

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+1 get corsair or coolmaster cpu will last at least 5 years!
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Evoss said:
/facepalm

Your system if anything is behind current times by a long shot.

It wont play the latest demanding games at max res on ultra either, better get back to the drawing board with that comment.


My system is now behind the times, but it makes yours look like its from the 90s, please do some research when building your first computer.
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How can my system be behind times when it can play all at high resolutions if i crank that i2500 k to 5ghz and oc a bit 570 gfx...? I am bewildered by your pungent remarks Evo. Can you justify your self?

Oh and yes i have started to build this system and have bought 2 components already (case & psu)
 
should buy OEM cpu if your buying an aftermarket cooler, saves a few more £'s.

If your happy with the build thats the main thing. People have different views on a kick ass system, personally i would look at multi monitor/ high end items as kick ass however thats my outlook on it.

GL with the build
 
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If things get slow just throw in another 570... or upgrade to 680gtx... Thats how smart I am!
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Why not just ditch the 570 and save for a 680? Or even up the current multi card budget and get a pair of 580's? Pretty sure OcUK were selling 580's for around £280 a card last week.

You are also very very optimistic on getting a 2500K to 5ghz, the fact remains that very few SB chips will hit 5ghz at reasonable enough volts on air. While on the subject of chips, as you are yet to buy anything meaningful, why don't you hold out a few weeks, grab a Z77 board and a 3750K?

I have a feeling you may be in for a shock when you decide to start gaming at anything above 1680x1050 with everything maxed out with the build you have so far.
 
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Why not just ditch the 570 and save for a 680? Or even up the current multi card budget and get a pair of 580's? Pretty sure OcUK were selling 580's for around £280 a card last week.

You are also very very optimistic on getting a 2500K to 5ghz, the fact remains that very few SB chips will hit 5ghz at reasonable enough volts on air. While on the subject of chips, as you are yet to buy anything meaningful, why don't you hold out a few weeks, grab a Z77 board and a 3750K?

I have a feeling you may be in for a shock when you decide to start gaming at anything above 1680x1050 with everything maxed out with the build you have so far.
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I'd love to do that by my budget is around 1000 pounds only. And within that budget current system specs seem kick ass.
 
In which case good luck to you.

Though I have to agree with some other posts, it wouldn't hurt to head over to general hardware and get some help with better spec. For example I would ditch the 570 over something like the 7850 or the 448 core 560Ti, I really don't see any appeal in owning a 570 unless its the 2.5gb version.

Remember you also need to factor in the cost of fans, cables, monitoring, storage discs (you're not playing a wide range of games on a 128gb drive), mouse, keyboard, sound cards, speakers, headset. If you want it to be kick ass on a grand budget you don't want to cut any corners or buy something purely because it fits the budget.

What I would do is split that grand 60/40. Take £600 for cpu, motherboard, ram and graphics, then the other £400 for cooling, power etc...even do the build gradually so you can keep topping your budget up, my initial build started with £400 (chip board and ram) and has been getting invested in since last may, I've now spent close to £3k on it, and 10 months later near completion.
 
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In which case good luck to you.

Though I have to agree with some other posts, it wouldn't hurt to head over to general hardware and get some help with better spec. For example I would ditch the 570 over something like the 7850 or the 448 core 560Ti, I really don't see any appeal in owning a 570 unless its the 2.5gb version.

Remember you also need to factor in the cost of fans, cables, monitoring, storage discs (you're not playing a wide range of games on a 128gb drive), mouse, keyboard, sound cards, speakers, headset. If you want it to be kick ass on a grand budget you don't want to cut any corners or buy something purely because it fits the budget.

What I would do is split that grand 60/40. Take £600 for cpu, motherboard, ram and graphics, then the other £400 for cooling, power etc...even do the build gradually so you can keep topping your budget up, my initial build started with £400 (chip board and ram) and has been getting invested in since last may, I've now spent close to £3k on it, and 10 months later near completion.
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Pgi you have given me good advice i feel. 448 core 560Ti vs 570 is very close. But 448 core 560Ti seems about 5% better.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/499?vs=306

We also share same asus p8z68 v motherb. I dont need extra few sata/usb's.

Please care to share more tips... you are very welcome.


I do have monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers and headset already.

Also will primarly play 2 games: bf3 and diablo III.
 
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And within that budget current system specs seem kick ass.
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Stop saying its a kick ass system, not only does it make you sound about 12 its only an "alright", run of the mill system.

Have you not seen the proper build logs where budgets are around £3-5k, those are what you would class as decent systems, and even those systems will be outdated in a few months time.
 
What monitor, or resolution monitor do you have?

Have a look over this chaps build log too, similar situation, budget constraints etc...

Little spec up for you, left out case and PSU, changed motherboard, cooler, gpu, added mechanical storage drive:


YOUR BASKET
1 x EVGA GeForce GTX 560Ti "448 Edition" *** 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (012-P3-2066-KR) £199.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £163.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT128M4SSD2) £119.99
1 x EVGA Intel Z68 SLI (Socket 1155) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard (120-SB-E682-KR) £99.95
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD10EZRX) **SINGLE PLATTER** £74.99
1 x LG CH10LS28 BD-ROM 10x BluRay ROM / DVDRW SATA-II Optical Drive - Black (Retail) £59.99
1 x Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1156/1155/1366/AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1) £59.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU) £33.59
Total : £824.47 (includes shipping : £10.00).

 
pgi947 said:
What monitor, or resolution monitor do you have?


Little spec up for you, left out case and PSU, changed motherboard, cooler, gpu, added mechanical storage drive:


YOUR BASKET
1 x EVGA GeForce GTX 560Ti "448 Edition" *** 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (012-P3-2066-KR) £199.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £163.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT128M4SSD2) £119.99
1 x EVGA Intel Z68 SLI (Socket 1155) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard (120-SB-E682-KR) £99.95
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD10EZRX) **SINGLE PLATTER** £74.99
1 x LG CH10LS28 BD-ROM 10x BluRay ROM / DVDRW SATA-II Optical Drive - Black (Retail) £59.99
1 x Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1156/1155/1366/AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1) £59.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU) £33.59
Total : £824.47 (includes shipping : £10.00).

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19 inch 1440x900 or so...

PGI are you taking the mickey. You are recommending WORSE cooler, matherb, storage and optical storage. I know its 1st april but cmon man... am not that dumb.
 
Are you for real?!

That hdd is one of the best on the market in any worth while review including ones by resident ocuk users that head sink kicks ass, so without it your system would not be worthy of its status .

I was gonna comment on the other point but could understand what you were trying to spell. In the mean time research your products a little more.
 
In which case I give up, you appear to be judging something either based on its price or non-sense features it may offer.

Cooler is worse...by maybe 2c tops, but its near £15 cheaper, still cheaper than the NH-D14 is the Phanteks PH-TC14PE which also performs better...I take it you over looked this completely as it costs less than the NH-D14?

Motherboard, how is it worse? Z68 chipset, very good brand, lots of connections, multi-gpu capable. If the fact that is mATX is off putting then have a look at the UD3. Oh and both run £30 cheaper than the Asus.

Optical, do you really burn lots of blu-ray discs? I can't imagine why anyone really would which is why i spec'd a rom drive with dvdrw features....£40 less.

Whats wrong with the storage? its 1TB, WD branded and doesn't cost the earth? Still have the SSD there for OS and programs...

If you want to do "Kick Ass" on a budget your going to have to sacrifice a few things, like the big flash motherboard, pointless burners and over priced coolers.
 
Although it pains me to say it, the cooler you had at first was right, even though it was for LGA2011 because you can request the LGA1155 bracket from Noctua for free. The Noctua NH-D14 2011 is better than than the original NH-D14 for 1155 etc because the 2011 model has its most recent fans which have been refreshed with PWM type. However, you've also been recommended the K2 which is on a par performance wise and is cheaper. You could also look at the Thermalright Silver Arrow which is slightly better than the K2 and NH-D14's as it is slightly quieter according to the review at Vortez.

Glad you seen the light to dirty your hands with Intel as I was wondering how you were going to fit an AMD into that z68 motherboard. :D
 
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