Klopp Out Arne In
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Caporegime
Wonder where he'd even go, Spain? Saudi with Salah? 
Perhaps there was a reason he was defending Henderson...
Perhaps there was a reason he was defending Henderson...
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Liverpool can’t go on a hunt for a manager without that getting out which would be infinitely more damaging to the club in the moment than the way it’s been handled
Caporegime
It is crazy when you think about it. He has basically been in management for half of his life. It also has to be one of the most selfless jobs out there as I can imagine you sacrifice a lot in terms of family and doing other things.
I think what he says about just needing a break and not being physically and emotionally able to keep going through this seasons after season is true. Watching his full interview I get the impression that he decided he needed that break last season but he says he felt responsible to put things right before he thought of himself and now that we're back on track he feels like he's able to take that break now.
I think it's incredible to be honest - if he'd left last season, finishing with no silverware and out of the top 4, we could really have started to decline quickly.
Instead he's basically rebuilt the core of the team, we have a great shot this season of some silverware and top 4, and a younger and more exciting squad. We're a much more enticing prospect for a good manager than we were 6 months ago. I'm not saying that that was necessarily Klopp's intention with the timing, but he could easily have bailed at the end of last season when it was tough, and credit to him for not doing so.
Even as a Man Utd fan it's sad to see him giving up the helm at Liverpool. A classy guy, that has been fully adopted by the city (Everton fans aside) and has had the utmost respect for the fans.
Knowing what it was like when Fergie left (all I'd ever really known at that point!) and the success and identity he brought, I know Liverpool fans will be hurting today.
Just remember the good times, you never know when they'll come again. Who knows, maybe another bunch of silverware to see him off is on the cards.
Knowing what it was like when Fergie left (all I'd ever really known at that point!) and the success and identity he brought, I know Liverpool fans will be hurting today.
Just remember the good times, you never know when they'll come again. Who knows, maybe another bunch of silverware to see him off is on the cards.
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Yea. I know we've already had people comment on Ferguson and there's so many other old school type managers that carried on until they were OAP's but that generation of manager delegated so much of their work. They were managers in every meaning of the word - they had their coaches who carried out training sessions, quite often while they were sat in their offices (or in Harry Redknapp & Allardyce's case, in Dubai) and they took over the team at the weekend. Your Klopp's and Guardiola's are out on the training pitch every day and that 24/7 style of management is going to take it's toll. I'm amazed Pep's not had a nervous breakdown yet given the way he carries on.
Caporegime
Surely it's the reverse? Managers now have got bigger backteams and support structures than they've ever had. They never had Directors of Football or Sports Psychologists, Sports Scientists, Data Analysts etc.
I think the longer seasons definitely takes a bigger toll (as we've seen with players too) but I wouldn't say modern managers do more.
Caporegime
I would put Klopp more on the Fergie side of that though in the terms I see Klopp more as a manager and Guardiola more of a coach.
Klopp was obviously a big figure at Mainz, Dortmund and at Liverpool. Guardiola has always been "coach these players" type of manager.
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Not really. I think we've just seen a slight change in the responsibilities of a manager. The way I look at it, your older generation managers were sporting directors that took the team on match days where as today's managers are coaches that take the team on match days but then also liaise with the sporting director on all those other things.
They had different responsibilities than modern managers, spending more time looking at recruitment and those sorts of things but in terms of 24/7, out on the pitch working I think today's managers have a far greater workload. My comment about Redknapp & Allardyce being in Dubai when the team were training wasn't tongue in cheek. Patrick van Aanholt gave an interview a little while ago where he said from Sunday to Wednesday Allardyce was in Dubai then he'd rock up, oversee some specific tactical training sessions for the weekends game.
Caporegime
I think being a manager is far harder than its ever been in the past. To sit at the top table for any real amount of time at any top club takes a lot.
Soldato
it's going to be interesting now, this was always going to happen at some point. Now the big question, is who would you have next? It's going to be massive shoes to fill.
It's not specific to him, that was the norm. As Shami says, they had other responsibilities that today's managers don't have but I just think that being out on the training pitch day in day out is probably more draining than Sam Allardyce being sat by a pool on the phone to an agent with one hand and a pint of wine in his other hand.
Man of Honour
I'm a United fan, and I absolutely hate to see Liverpool doing well, but I bloody love Klopp and can't deny how good Liverpool are to watch these days.
I'm pleased he's leaving Liverpool but I'm sad he'll no longer be in the PL, amazing manager, great character and seems a decent bloke. Gutted
I'm pleased he's leaving Liverpool but I'm sad he'll no longer be in the PL, amazing manager, great character and seems a decent bloke. Gutted
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Alonso couldn't be more obvious imo. He's doing unbelievably well, he's at the right stage of his career to step up to a bigger side, he's young, he knows the club, the city, the language, and he would have a young squad to work with and which he can grow with. I'd genuinely consider anyone else disappointing