Kyle Rittenhouse - teen who shot three people in Kenosha
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I'm trying to demonstrate what might have been going through people's minds at that moment.
You all seem entirely disinterested in exploring that , even though that is the crux of the case
You see once again, what you see on a video is ENTIRELY different to what someone might be thinking someone is doing in the heat of the moment in a highly stressful situation such as this.
"Yeh well the video shows him walking in that direction". So what. That isn't what i'm talking about.
Yeah, it's not sure what you're talking about - some fantasy/whataboutery re: running to a "vantage point" in the middle of a flat road?
no, not at all *sigh*.
Ive never said he was running to a vantage point. I'm talking about what people at that time may have thought he may be doing, in the panic of the moment. How do they know he isn't just moving away to potentially get more shots off at people but from a better distance to protect himself?
If you are not interested in discussing what everyone was possibly thinking at the time and their intentions, then that is fine. But that is pretty much the curx of this whole case.
Soldato
prosecution doing another good job of showing self defence again
Yes I know you're talking about what people were thinking, you literally said that and you put forth some bizarre scenario re: them thinking he's fleeing to a vantage point... yet he's running down the middle of a road.
Of course, he's trying to get a better distance to protect himself, he's fleeing from them!
Why is it? Tried to ask you this yesterday but you went into deflection mode and wouldn't elaborate.
Suppose, for the sake of argument, someone in that mob did believe he was fleeing to some vantage point or something then what? What does that matter to the case?
I'll remind you again that those people aren't on trial.
People will have all kinds of different impressions of what is going on - but he was moving away with the gun down in a neutral position, finger off the trigger (though someone unfamiliar with firearms and the situation might not notice that detail) and trying to avoid people - someone coming across him without knowing the full context but hearing a commotion and gunshots aren't that likely to think he is an active shooter. https://youtu.be/VpTW2AJE9MQ?t=1144
EDIT: That isn't to say it precludes people thinking he is a threat - but it is far from the way some are painting it either.
That may have been the case, but , as i keep saying, others there were not to know that. Merely him moving in a certain direction does not indicate his ultimate intention.
For someone on a computer forum I thought that you would know that interpolation is literally the adding in or doctoring of information in an image source, it's fairly common knowledge. And the defence are right to object to it.
Soldato
And doing just as poor of a job at arguing that point.FYI, the prosecutor right now is covering most of what i have been saying
OK, but you're not clarifying what your point is still?
You ignored the question again:
Agreed. But what about those that are aware that he is the one responsible for someone just being killed (and them not potentially being fully aware of what had happened - in fact its likely NO one but Kyle and the dead guy at that point new exactly what had happened).
If in an "intense" situation a person is considering that somone with a firearm is moving to a vantage point they probably know what good trigger discipline looks like.
My point that those after him might have been intending to disarm him because they perceived him to be someone going around shooting people.
I'm not saying that they were correct in that assumption. But there was obviously massive confusion and panic going on so i'm trying to imagine what people's intentions were.
They arent really. This doesnt look good for Rittenhouse at all imo.
Ive just been watching this thread for a couple of hours and youve made that point quite clearly to the point when i listened to the live stream it reminded me of your post.
Soldato
