Lab grown meat approved in USA for human consumption.

Citation required.

However, fears have arisen that the combination of the buying loophole, together with Australian pressure for a deal, could mean people in institutions being served cheaper products that undercut UK production standards and cause more eco damage.

It includes meat from pigs kept in confined sow stalls that are banned in the UK and from cattle treated with growth hormones that are banned in the EU; wool from sheep that have had their back ends painfully cut, and powdered eggs from battery-caged hens, outlawed in Britain since 2012
 
Why do you think they're so good now?

Are they?

I'm just going by your FSA's information:

Nothing there about 'a loophole in the trade deal meaning the UK can import all your dodgy crap you can't shift and serve it up in places like hospitals.'

As I pointed out earlier, the EU imports thousands of tonnes of our meat every year, under their high quality beef quota, because it meets EU standards.
 

'Could mean' is doing all the heavy lifting in that highly speculative sentence, which has plenty to say about differing welfare standards but nothing to say about Australian product being lower quality.
 
'Could mean' is doing all the heavy lifting in that highly speculative sentence, which has plenty to say about differing welfare standards but nothing to say about Australian product being lower quality.
Your FSA says that.

Edit: FWIW I prefer to buy meat from local farmers when I can. The food miles and traceability are pretty important.
 
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Your FSA says that.

Our FSA does not say anything that suggests our product is inferior quality. Yes, hormones are used in a minority share of Australia's beef (40%) because they're safe and effective. Yes, sow stalls are used because they're safe and effective (also necessary to reduce piglet mortality rates).

I'm personally opposed to mulesing and high concentration battery hen farms, I think they're cruel and unnecessary. I also oppose the live meat export trade. But none of this changes the fact that the quality of our meat is not only high, but high enough to meet EU standards.

If the UK wants to import some of our lower quality stuff, that's the UK's choice. After all, dumping EU standards was one of the reasons for Brexit, wasn't it? That's what the British people wanted, so that's what they're getting.
 
Your FSA says that.

Edit: FWIW I prefer to buy meat from local farmers when I can. The food miles and traceability are pretty important.

I think if everyone did that we'd be in a far better situation but there wouldn't be enough meat to go around.

As for this lab meat. As long as it's not hormone or antibiotic filled and just as natural as possible then it's no worse I guess than the highly processed crap people eat now.
 
Our FSA does not say anything that suggests our product is inferior quality. Yes, hormones are used in a minority share of Australia's beef (40%) because they're safe and effective. Yes, sow stalls are used because they're safe and effective (also necessary to reduce piglet mortality rates).

I'm personally opposed to mulesing and high concentration battery hen farms, I think they're cruel and unnecessary. I also oppose the live meat export trade. But none of this changes the fact that the quality of our meat is not only high, but high enough to meet EU standards.

If the UK wants to import some of our lower quality stuff, that's the UK's choice. After all, dumping EU standards was one of the reasons for Brexit, wasn't it? That's what the British people wanted, so that's what they're getting.
Oh aye, I'm sure there's plenty of high quality stuff produced by Australia. Actually, I know there is, I've eaten there. :)

It's more a reflection of a government that bent over in a trade deal for Brexit points that I don't trust, knowing they'd buy anything that Aussies wouldn't touch and dish it up in hospitals and care homes.

It was 51% of those that voted btw, some of us just suffer the consequences of others stupidity. :)

I'm not generally a fan of food miles, at least when it was on the same continent it wasn't so bad.

Edit: Gone off on a tangent, sorry about that. But yup, if we could grow cruelty free meat that's not full of junk and produced locally I'm all for it.
 
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Another step to the end of intensive farming.

The faster this comes along the better.
Mainly for animal welfare but also environmental impact too
 
Another step to the end of intensive farming.

The faster this comes along the better.
Mainly for animal welfare but also environmental impact too

I wonder how this scales up in terms of energy requirements, carbon etc... I guess it should be lower than traditional farming. If they can make it cheaper than organic meat then I think they're onto a winner.

Next step is beef. My local farm supplies our butcher and it's just so nice. We don't buy supermarket meat anymore unless we have no choice.

Hopefully Europe will start to invest and investigate the opportunity and test it for use here.
 
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We're one of the top rated meat exporting nations for quality and quantity. We export nearly as much beef per year as the US, despite having a population ~12 times smaller.


 
I wonder how this scales up in terms of energy requirements, carbon etc... I guess it should be lower than traditional farming. If they can make it cheaper than organic meat then I think they're onto a winner.

Next step is beef. My local farm supplies our butcher and it's just so nice. We don't buy supermarket meat anymore unless we have no choice.

Hopefully Europe will start to invest and investigate the opportunity and test it for use here.

It'll end up cheaper for sure. So many factors.

No need for heated sheds
Less energy wasted through normal organic life Processes
No need for slaughter houses
No need for vets
No need to transport chicks to farms, adults to slaughter houses

All this and also no need for all the cruelty that goes with farming.

Its the future, I'm sure of it.
 
Yes it looks promising. Personally I don't think I'm quite ready for it yet until I'm sure it's been through more investigation. But that's a bias rather than any rational reason.
 
Man I can't wait for all the pretentious hypocritical BS about how all these animals will die because there's no demand for them as if they care one bit about their welfare.

There will still be a market for 'premium' meat so who cares.
 
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