Lateness at work

Your attitude is all wrong too, you should get to work about 15 mins before you start, you dont have to be working then but it means you have clocked in on time.
If you worked for me you would have been sacked that month for being a complete useless idiot.
 
rofl, at my old job if you were late even by 1 minute more than 3 times you got a disciplinary. Consider yourself lucky :P
 
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That's ridiculous. If it was up to me I would have brought it up after the lateness on the 6th, 7th and 9th. 15 hours lateness over ~3 months takes the ****

And an hour late two days in a row? Come on. I'd be quite embarrassed turning up to work that late.

And only an informal meeting on the 1st December? They have been lenient enough with you.
 
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I work 17 miles away from my job and i can go from work to home in 50 mins, some days, especially the end of last year, on some days it took 1 hour 30mins or even up to 2 hours on some days. Am i expected to arrive 1 hour before I start.

It is a very relaxed environment at work and I was never told that there was specifically a zero tolerance to lateness.
 
groen said:
I work 17 miles away from my job and i can go from work to home in 50 mins, some days, especially the end of last year, on some days it took 1 hour 30mins or even up to 2 hours on some days. Am i expected to arrive 1 hour before I start.

It is a very relaxed environment at work and I was never told that there was specifically a zero tolerance to lateness.
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Oh get over yourself, 17 miles and you are sometimes an hour late.

Zero tolerance is one thing, you quite clearly flout any generosity there may have been.
 
groen said:
I work 17 miles away from my job and i can go from work to home in 50 mins, some days, especially the end of last year, on some days it took 1 hour 30mins or even up to 2 hours on some days. Am i expected to arrive 1 hour before I start.
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Why is there such a large variation on journey times?

Many people commute at least 17 miles and it doesn't seem to routinely cause such problems with lateness.

It is a very relaxed environment at work and I was never told that there was specifically a zero tolerance to lateness.
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I haven't been specifically told that I can't use the manager's desk as a toilet, but I've managed to figure it out for myself.

Zero tolerance means zero tolerance, i.e. not allowed at all to any extent. In this context, it would mean that being 1 minute late once would not be tolerated, i.e. would result in disciplinary action.

Some years back, a particularly zealous manager at my workplace tried to implement a zero tolerance policy regarding lateness. The result was people very deliberately being 1 minute late every day in protest. The policy was quietly dropped. Current policy is that they'll let up to 5 minutes slide as long as it isn't too often and overlook larger amounts if you have a good reason. That's a normal approach. You've been given way, way more slack than normal.
 
groen said:
I work 17 miles away from my job and i can go from work to home in 50 mins, some days, especially the end of last year, on some days it took 1 hour 30mins or even up to 2 hours on some days. Am i expected to arrive 1 hour before I start.

It is a very relaxed environment at work and I was never told that there was specifically a zero tolerance to lateness.
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It's a business, not a charity. If you can't make it in on time then find more suitable employment. Something in the public sector with relaxed flexitime rules that's 2 minutes walk from your place of habitation would seem appropriate.

I used to work with a guy that commuted to South Manchester from North of Leeds every day. Number of times he was late in 18 months? Never.
 
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groen said:
I work 17 miles away from my job and i can go from work to home in 50 mins, some days, especially the end of last year, on some days it took 1 hour 30mins or even up to 2 hours on some days. Am i expected to arrive 1 hour before I start.

It is a very relaxed environment at work and I was never told that there was specifically a zero tolerance to lateness.
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Your expected to be there on time? :rolleyes:

I used to have to go walk to the bus station and get a bus 16miles then walk 15mins to get to my place of work and i was never that late. If i was i made up that time.

Your just taking the piste though.
 
groen said:
I work 17 miles away from my job and i can go from work to home in 50 mins, some days, especially the end of last year, on some days it took 1 hour 30mins or even up to 2 hours on some days. Am i expected to arrive 1 hour before I start.

It is a very relaxed environment at work and I was never told that there was specifically a zero tolerance to lateness.
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I commute 16 miles a day, buy car its 20-24 minutes traffic dependant, I've cycled it twice last year, 60-70 minutes. Bus is about 40-50 minutes. If you know that one way will result in delays, try another.

I've not read past page 2 but...

You need to take the times you were late and check weather forecasts and transport strikes so at least you can put some of them down to those reasons. The rest you need to bend over for, apologise and discuss why you were late.

Be HONEST with them, and more importantly yourself. Do you care about the job? Are you just lazy? Are you going to bed late enough? What alarms have you got?

You know that only a small % of those lateness are due to anything but yourself and your behaviour. You need to go into the meeting with an apology, and understand why it happened and a plan for how to stop it from happening again.

They can't sack you I shouldn't think, but a final written could be on the cards depending on the company rules and regs.
 
I was 3 hours late once back in the crazy snow days of late 2009. Was stuck on the bus in a traffic jam while it was snowing pretty bad outside. They laughed it off and even let me go home early. :/
 
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I have a disciplinary at work because i have been late a lot of times on the early shift :mad: The new supervisor is a real dick and now he is on my case about lateness, we had four tube strikes and load of snow end of last year and i did not call in sick once. I often work through my lunches. Do you think that i have any chance of talking my way out of this one? Below are the times in minutes that i was late on the early shift.
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Stop.

The 'new supervisor being a dick' is doing the right thing. Being consistently late like that is a total disgrace. I'd have hung you out to dry long before it had got this bad.

As a team member you have a responsibility to not only yourself, but to your colleagues. Your on an early shift for some sort of good reason, and you pitching up in some cases AN HOUR late is borderline unforgivable, even worse that your doing it and wanting a way out.

I'd expect at the very least a written warning from this. If you have to rely on public transport that is one persons problem, yours. Regardless of weather/poor service/whatever YOU chose to take that job knowing your reliance on it.

Why don't you ask if you can just do lates if your not an early bird. Personally your supervisor should have spoken to you at the time letting you know that being so late is unacceptable. Working through your lunch is irrelevant, your in a role where you have a set start time, you need to be in for then.

Obviously sometimes life doesnt go to plan, but that is seriously comprehensive detail on how late you have been.
 
The OP wasn't have lasted long at our place. If you are on earlies it's because you need to be in at that time to cover the phones and start work on any tickets which were not urgent enough to be covered by oncall.

Personally I have always allowed a reasonable amount of time to my commute to allow for delays, which does mean at times I have been in quite a time before I needed to be. Technically now I don't have to be in before 10am (the joys of flex time) but I'm still in the office by 7am to get things done and not have to stay late in the afternoon).

I've only seen one case worse than the OP; we had a chap in support who was frequently 30mins late for getting in at 10am ... and he lived a 10min walk from the office ... he didn't last long ...
 
i say - you have a responsibility to be at work on time. if the transport is bad, you have to either a) get up earlier to allow for more time or b) get another job closer to home/with different hours.
 
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