Laurence Fox

Nitefly said:
It’s not a major discussion point, but calling someone a **** is not half as degrading as somebody from the opposite sex saying that no self respecting person would have sex with you. It’s not even close.
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It's also the truth (he is unequivocally a codpiece) whereas the accusation about her was a 'joke' as they so often excuse it as.
 
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The right might want to take a break from madly gesticulating their floppy appendages at the globular lefty cabal that maybe the real issue might be closer to home...
 
ltron said:
What frustrated you about her comments? A minister for mental health is a very good idea (along with the funding it sorely needs) as this is the main problem (the discussion was held in the context of mental health). I believe a focussed approach is much better than a more general and vague 'minister for men' idea and it will benefit everyone.

A 'minister for men' is very subjective in terms of what it means and this Conservative government could indeed use it as a means to fuel culture wars (which is their modus operandi) rather than addressing the real issues. It's much more difficult for them to do this if it's a 'minister for mental health'. Invariably such a minister would focus more on men as we have a higher successful suicide rate and the minister would attempt to address the real underlying issues, that would be their job.

I came up with the same idea in my previous post independently of Ava (as I had not yet seen the video where she made the comments) and no one said on here that they were frustrated due to my points.
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On the surface, no one disagrees a Minister for Mental health is a good idea.. but…

When we already have a ‘Minister for Women and Equalities’ it’s hardly contentious or playing the culture wars to have something focussed on the other 50% of the population..

It wasn’t just the idea of having A Minister for Mental health, she did a complete ‘but think of the children’ by undermining the idea of men needing mental health support by immediately implying children had more need for it..

And it’s not just mental health, there are more men in prison, men die younger then women, etc, and that is the point.

What she did was purely the mind of a toxic feminist or just toxic journalist… when you claim your employment is "producer of the JoB show on LBC and political correspondent for PoliticsJoe“ you know precisely what she’s up to, and it’s not being a fair and balanced political correspondent…

Laughably she is now playing the ‘I fear for my life because of GB news’ which is the epitome of shooting the messenger.. bringing attention to what she said on GMTV and talk tv and every other stupid comment she’s made is just everything coming home to roost.. try to be idiotically controversial to get recognition then crying because people are upset with your idiotically controversial ideas is moronic.
 
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Well, he's not wrong. Just not the appropriate place to say it. They've had it in for him since his QT appearance, he should have been more careful.

They almost certainly would have discussed what would be said prior to the interview and someone at GB News thought, that's fine.
 
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BowdonUK said:
It's a shame some of the left seem not to hold the moral line when it's one of their own.

Two examples come to mind,
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I was unaware of either of these, here is what a quick Google has revealed to me
BowdonUK said:
1. Jo Brand advocating throwing battery acid at Farage.
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Advocating? It was a joke from a comedian known to make those sort of jokes.

BowdonUK said:
2. Miriam Margolyes wishing Boris died of covid.
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A comment over a video chat on comedy show 'The last leg' during lockdown, full quote for context:

“It’s a disgrace, it’s a scandal. I had difficulty not wanting Boris Johnson to die. I wanted him to die. Then I thought that will reflect badly on me and I don’t want to be the sort of person that wants people to die.

So then I wanted him to get better, which he did do, he did get better. But he didn’t get better as a human being. And I really would prefer that.”
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VincentHanna said:
I was unaware of either of these, here is what a quick Google has revealed to me

Advocating? It was a joke from a comedian known to make those sort of jokes.

A comment over a video chat on comedy show 'The last leg' during lockdown, full quote for context:
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If those "jokes" or statements had been said by a right wing person you'd have been on here rightfully condemning them.

But because you feel connected to those people you're making excuses.

Most of the public aren't partisan or think in a political way. They just see an inconsistent reaction.

If Jim Davidson commented if a similar incident happened to Starmer would you be on here defending it as a joke? I'm thinking not.
 
BowdonUK said:
If those "jokes" or statements had been said by a right wing person you'd have been on here rightfully condemning them.

But because you feel connected to those people you're making excuses.

Most of the public aren't partisan or think in a political way. They just see an inconsistent reaction.

If Jim Davidson commented if a similar incident happened to Starmer would you be on here defending it as a joke? I'm thinking not.
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Well no.

Feel free to point out where I've ever condemed a joke from a comedian that wasn't outright racist or homophobic.
 
On the subject of Fox, though I don't agree with how he went about it, and don't think he should have been a host on GBNews for a few reasons, the point he and Geoff Norbert were making I agree with. There should be a Minister for Men.

Most of the problems in society are caused by male dysfunction in society. From feelings of insecurity being expressed in extreme ways to both men and women, to being absent fathers and not taking responsibility.

A lot of men live their lives looking for validation from women. That is wrong.
 
VincentHanna said:
So you think interviews are rehearsed on GB News.

Who would want to watch a channel like that?
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Standard interview process across the board of all media for pre-arranged interviews.. It’s to discuss the questions/scope and ensure people are prepared, have you not wondered on the BBC/ITV/et al. when political people are asked unrelated questions to the topic at hand how they always have a very calm and thought out response?
 
BowdonUK said:
If those "jokes" or statements had been said by a right wing person you'd have been on here rightfully condemning them.

But because you feel connected to those people you're making excuses.

Most of the public aren't partisan or think in a political way. They just see an inconsistent reaction.

If Jim Davidson commented if a similar incident happened to Starmer would you be on here defending it as a joke? I'm thinking not.
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I'd be thinking he'd toned down his act as it was normally in your face racism from start to finish.
 
ebilcake said:
Well, he's not wrong. Just not the appropriate place to say it. They've had it in for him since his QT appearance, he should have been more careful.

They almost certainly would have discussed what would be said prior to the interview and someone at GB News thought, that's fine.
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Seriously mate have a couple of drinks and wonder at the world. The feast of knowledge and fun is available. It is not advertised or endorsed by L Fox or GB News. There is so much in the world to enjoy that these morons want to hide from you.
 
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