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Yeah not quite the same though are they.
I mean threatening to murder someone is a tiny bit more serious than threatening to break a camera.
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Yeah not quite the same though are they.
I mean threatening to murder someone is a tiny bit more serious than threatening to break a camera.
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It's already a well defined line.
One is criminal damage
The other is murder.
Not even in the same galaxy of seriousness.
Well there can't be a grading system for property damage can there?
Lets say someone intends on blowing up half the M25 but they've warned everyone beforehand, that's a state killing event right there and every time the police ignores similar, smaller in scope threats that turn out to be genuine after the fact they inadvertently make such things more likely to occur because the consequences aren't being taken seriously.
Lets say someone intends on blowing up half the M25 but they've warned everyone beforehand, that's a state killing event right there and every time the police ignores similar, smaller in scope threats that turn out to be genuine after the fact they inadvertently make such things more likely to occur because the consequences aren't being taken seriously.
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If this was Just Stop Oil doing it the same people saying its a waste of police time would want them locked up.
To me it just looks like a C list celeb desperate to remain relevant and so he's concocted getting himself arrested for publicity and sympathy and its worked.
To me it just looks like a C list celeb desperate to remain relevant and so he's concocted getting himself arrested for publicity and sympathy and its worked.
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The guy is a bit of a helmet but police raiding his house is ridiculous. Just adds fuel to the fire, get on with helping people who are constantly ignored by police due to "not having the time or numbers"
Do thieves and burglar typically say they're going to do it in a public setting beforehand?
You're literally saying the police should not investigate a threat.
If they did the police might just do their job in relation to burglaries, because they don't currently
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What on earth does that have to do with it?
Pfft they protect the elites that wont change.If they did the police might just do their job in relation to burglaries, because they don't currently
Protect your own property by not being so easy to steal from because even if the police do start showing up the reality is that they can't stop it from happening in the first place.
Police look for easy wins. If you post of a video online, saying you’re going to commit a crime and encouraging other people to commit crime, what do you expect to happen?
I’m not saying I agree with it but the people pre-arrested before William & Kate’s wedding in 2011 took their case all the way to the ECHR and lost. He must have known what would happen.
I’m not saying I agree with it but the people pre-arrested before William & Kate’s wedding in 2011 took their case all the way to the ECHR and lost. He must have known what would happen.
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If Farage runs for election in your constituency, and is door knocking on the roads nearby your house.
Then you type on here that if he knocks on your door you might egg him.
The next day 6 cops turn up at your house banging on your front door to be let in to search your house and to arrest you.
Do you think that action is proportionate?
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No but if you were to say that you will assault him and encourage everyone else to join you in assaulting him, then yes, maybe 6 police and searching the house is OTT still.
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Especially when someones house down the road is burgled yet are told there isn't enough officers to attend.
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All home burglaries will be attended by the police
Police chiefs in England and Wales have committed to attend all home burglaries. The move follows evidence from the College of Policing and will help police catch more burglars and support victims after a traumatic and invasive experience.
The key problem here is the past tense of being burgled versus the future tense of 'I'm going to commit a crime'.
What are the police going to do with all these burglars? There's no space in prison for them so I guess it's just performative?
Seems a little more than mere encouragement.
Whatever it is, it’s wildly below what I think warrants any involvement from the police, let alone a house raid
Literally, it’s somebody talking about knocking down some cameras in an angry protest.
A regime that it seeks to sanction people that talk about their desire to commit mild civil disobedience… is pretty much begging for said civil disobedience, IMO.
It's sought to do that for decades whilst nobody cared to stop them because muh terrorists, now it's institutional.Whatever it is, it’s wildly below what I think warrants any involvement from the police, let alone a house raid
Literally, it’s somebody talking about knocking down some cameras in an angry protest.
A regime that it seeks to sanction people that talk about their desire to commit mild civil disobedience… is pretty much begging for said civil disobedience, IMO.
By definition what he did was terrorism.