Leeds United Association Football Club Takeover

Andybtsn said:
The long term goal is to get back in the PL, Redfearn wouldn't of done that.
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Ambitious, think Leeds are destined for the Championship for the foreseeable future, if things go badly this season it could be worse. Depends if your 'better than the last lot' owner decides what he wants to do.

I think Leeds need some big investment, on and off the pitch. Redfearn might not have gotten you promoted straight away, but he would have stabilised the club for a few seasons and built a foundation.
 
Steve Evans will get us back into the PL next year, then Moyes can come take over for few years before Mourinho taking us to the PL/CL double :D
 
I agree Andy, Redfearn is a good youth coach but a rubbish first team coach. I would have liked to give Rosler a longer crack of the whip the football was better under him.

I got worried with Evans against blackburn as we just hoofed it forward like under Warnock but last night against cardiff we showed fight and determination to win the ball. High pressing and playing it through midfield.

Cellino had a priest on the field blessing the pitch to try and rid us of the Gypsy curse. I might have worked for one game.
 
Tummy said:
Ambitious, think Leeds are destined for the Championship for the foreseeable future, if things go badly this season it could be worse. Depends if your 'better than the last lot' owner decides what he wants to do.
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There's no point in not being ambitious. Where's the enthusiasm going to come from among the fans if the aim is to only remain a Championship club? How do you attract the right type of player if you tell them that, despite being a massive club at this level, the only ambition is to not get relegated? It's been proven time and time again that limited clubs who've been well run and well managed have been able to get out of this league without loads of money being through at the situation (Burnley the first and second times around, Crystal Palace, even Blackpool did it when they were being run appropriately and before their owners turned evil).

To say "promotion is too ambitious, so we should just focus on remaining in the division because it's our destiny" essentially will only see them go one way: down. A club should strive for better things (Wednesday being a case in point this season) rather than just settle for mediocrity.
 
toshj said:
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There's no point in not being ambitious. Where's the enthusiasm going to come from among the fans if the aim is to only remain a Championship club? How do you attract the right type of player if you tell them that, despite being a massive club at this level, the only ambition is to not get relegated? It's been proven time and time again that limited clubs who've been well run and well managed have been able to get out of this league without loads of money being through at the situation (Burnley the first and second times around, Crystal Palace, even Blackpool did it when they were being run appropriately and before their owners turned evil).

To say "promotion is too ambitious, so we should just focus on remaining in the division because it's our destiny" essentially will only see them go one way: down. A club should strive for better things (Wednesday being a case in point this season) rather than just settle for mediocrity.
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Firstly, foreseeable future =/= forever.

Leeds are not a well ran club, so the point about not having to spend the world (relatively) and be well ran on and off the pitch and sneaking up does not apply here.

Leeds need a period of stability, I genuinely believe that Redfearn would have done what Gray did for Wednesday, albeit at Leeds. Which is to bring a period of stability to the team while off the pitch is sorted.

You cite Wednesday as being a case in point this season of being ambitious, but that comes with major investment on and off the pitch, a new manager with ambition, but all of which was built on a period of ~18~ months of stability, not pushing for promotion, not getting relegated, settling for being in the division basically.

Leeds need stability on the pitch, they need it off the pitch which will not happen until Cellino leaves. Then a 'good' owner(s) would come in, invest in the team and club and encourage ambition.

Leeds feel like a sinking ship, they need to stabilise, plug the holes and tread water until they can repair and move forward.
 
Tummy said:
Firstly, foreseeable future =/= forever.

Leeds are not a well ran club, so the point about not having to spend the world (relatively) and be well ran on and off the pitch and sneaking up does not apply here.

Leeds need a period of stability, I genuinely believe that Redfearn would have done what Gray did for Wednesday, albeit at Leeds. Which is to bring a period of stability to the team while off the pitch is sorted.

You cite Wednesday as being a case in point this season of being ambitious, but that comes with major investment on and off the pitch, a new manager with ambition, but all of which was built on a period of ~18~ months of stability, not pushing for promotion, not getting relegated, settling for being in the division basically.

Leeds need stability on the pitch, they need it off the pitch which will not happen until Cellino leaves. Then a 'good' owner(s) would come in, invest in the team and club and encourage ambition.

Leeds feel like a sinking ship, they need to stabilise, plug the holes and tread water until they can repair and move forward.
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All true, but clubs still need to push for promotion. Palace were promoted just 18 months after being in administration, and that 18 months was extremely turbulent (changing managers - Warnock, Burley, Freedman, Holloway, etc.) and have changed managers frequently in the Premiership. Of course Leeds need someone significantly better at the helm than Cellino, but that doesn't mean that they should settle and look solely for stability. Progress is what drives people to perform, not consolidation.
 
Watford didn't have any turbulence in their promotion season did they? :D

Leeds have had a very unfortunate run of people managing the thing from Ridsdale onwards. For all of his faults Cellino is better than Ridsdale, better than GFH and whole levels of magnitude better than Bates.
 
This is what i'm thinking as well, for all his faults, i do actually think he loves his football and wants to see Leeds do well.
 
Redfearns results were rubbish until thompson(?) came in as his assistant. We then started winning, Thomson was then sacked for whatever reason and the results nose dived again. Redfearn as much as I wanted to like him was terrible results wise. Nice bloke but not good as a first team manager for Leeds.
 
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