Legal aid should not fund asylum legal action.

Devilman said:
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Yep, a whole 3 of them. Out of 9 different posters total. Hardly a majority like you claimed eh?



Fixed that for you.
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What a silly boy you are. #facepalm
 
VincentHanna said:
Well lets break the sentence down



Nobody has posted facts that corroborate this, certainly not in the UK. I've given you facts from the government that dispute this. Feel free to link back to the facts in the thread that you think support your statement, or provide some better data.

"Ethnics" is a racist term. I assume you mean British people who aren't white? In which case ethnic minorities would be the term to use.
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You have never seen the UK crime records. All crimes. It’s significantly ethnic minorities.

I apologise, I missed a minority and added an extra “s” to the word. But now I’ve corrected it all is well.

Do you realise how woke and futile this is. ?

Ethnics = woke outrage
Ethnic minorities = PC acceptable.

These are the type of silly games I am getting tired of playing. It’s utterly ridiculous. If it’s offensive you would not use the word.
 
Diddums said:
I think you need to evaluate which publications you read, I've stopped reading all the usual drivel-spewing stuff promoting all that BLM / woke / sjw rubbish and haven't heard anything about it since. I work in one of the most multi-cultural companies in the world, with both staff and clients coming from every generation and every walk of life, and apart from a bit of box ticking to appease the press, I've not heard anything about it. We all just carry on as normal, carry out our jobs and living a good life, with race not even coming in to it at all. I've found that distancing myself from the echo chambers that perpetuate this crap has made my life immeasurably more pleasant. If everyone else did the same, and just left these moaning cretins to talk to a wall, they'd soon get bored and find something else to do, like eat crayons or lick windows.
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This is a good point and post. I’ve also worked in a very diverse amount of areas of work meeting various people. Some really decent human beings.

Those people are never an issue. It would be wrong and unfair to include them. You have a similar approach to my father. He removes himself from the echo chambers. I can see that it works.

However I see the plans labour have for the youth generation. The indoctrination and the political structuring. If we don’t stand up now for these silly changes in 25 years time the next generation will be fully PC with woke mentality. Like so many I feel we need to do our part now to make some sort of future for our children and grandchildren. That is the only reason I stay in the echo chamber.
 
McstylisT said:
This is a good point and post. I’ve also worked in a very diverse amount of areas of work meeting various people. Some really decent human beings.

Those people are never an issue. It would be wrong and unfair to include them. You have a similar approach to my father. He removes himself from the echo chambers. I can see that it works.

However I see the plans labour have for the youth generation. The indoctrination and the political structuring. If we don’t stand up now for these silly changes in 25 years time the next generation will be fully PC with woke mentality. Like so many I feel we need to do our part now to make some sort of future for our children and grandchildren. That is the only reason I stay in the echo chamber.
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Fair enough, taking one for the team then :D

I can't get involved with it anymore. I'd end up on the front page of the papers, it's just too frustrating. The fact that we as a society allow these people to exist is still beyond my comprehension. They should all be given their CHAZ area or whatever it was called and left to it. Maybe give them an island all to themselves and let them get on with it.
 
Caracus2k said:
Rather unlikely to actually be true though is it ....?



The population of England and Wales (to correspond with the CPS data as they dont operate in Scotland) was by percentage 80.5‰ white British (or 86‰ if you include white irish, white gypsy's and white other) these figures are now a bit dated and so the the percentage of white people will actually be a bit lower by 2015/16

We don't know the ethnicity of the 24% of defendants without ethnicity recorded but its not unreasonable (unless you have information to the contrary? ) to assume they will broadly follow the known percentages ethnicity wise (so 67‰ of 24 which is an additional 16.08‰ on the 67‰ for an estimate of a bit over 83‰ which is still a few percent under the 86‰ of people who were white a few years before.)

So with 98‰ of all defendants being male then white men are likely to be somewhere around proportionally represented in child sex offender cases if not slightly under represented on a per capita basis.
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Interesting, however your maths is off a bit.

67% is factoring in the 24% unknown, so you cannot apply that to the 24%.

You need to look only at known, so 67 + 4 + 3 + 1 + 1 = 76.

67 / 76 = 89%

Of recorded ethnicities, 89% were white, so assuming the 24% follows the same distribution, that is 21.4% being white, 1.3% being Asian, 0.9% Black, 0.3% mixed and 0.3% other.

21.4% + 67% = 88.4% white
1.2% + 4% = 5.2% asian
0.8% + 3% = 3.8% black
1.3% = mixed
1.3% = other

As you stated, the census data being a decade old isn't helpful, however some modelling has been done to give more recent estimates:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...nestimatesbyethnicgroupandreligion/2019-12-04

Combined estimate of White + Other White for England (Wales is pretty static due to lack of ethnic minorities) is 84.9%.

White: 88.4% - 84.9% = over-index of 3.7%
Asian: 5.2% - 8% = under-index of 3.2%
Black: 3.8% - 3.5% = over-index of 0.3%
Mixed: 1.3% - 1.8% = under-index of 0.5%
Other: 1.3% - 1.9% = under-index of 0.6%

Of course, using disparate date from varying years and including estimates will never give us the true numbers, which is the point of my argument. You are using best-guess stats to take a stance on something, but ignore other best-guess stats when it doesn't align with your viewpoint.
 
Devilman said:
The level of blatent xenophobia, dog-whistling racism and "immigrant blaming" going on in this thread by the usual suspects is truly remarkable.

Utterly disgusting levels of lies and misrepresentation being used by ignorant, racist bigots attempting to paint every immigrant as a rapist, a murderer or a child trafficker.

You people are ******* disgusting animals... I wouldn't **** on you if you were on fire.

I'd rather have a thousand of those "immigrants" than 1 of you xenophobic, racist sacks of **** who keep posting utter ******** with 0 evidence and claim they know best.
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Appeal to emotion... check.
Calling everyone racists... check.
Misrepresenting the opponent... check.
Zero counter-arguments made... check.

Is this parody or just your typical SJW? You decide!
 
VincentHanna said:
I think anytime somebody sits behind their keyboard saying we should let them drown, needs an urgent mental health assessment.
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Definitely not let them drown, but I can't see why we can take back them back to France and dump them where they came from. After a few weeks, they get the message that they can't get through or run out of money to hand over to the crime lords for dingies.
 
elrasho said:
another right wing thread, wonder how the OP would feel if he/she was the asylum seeker
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I would feel grateful for any country who allowed me safe stay and try to not commit any crimes or sexually asssult anyone.

If I go to a neighbours house and they say make yourself at home, I wouldnt literally start to act like all the possessions were my own or try to make love to his woman?
 
Devilman said:
The level of blatent xenophobia, dog-whistling racism and "immigrant blaming" going on in this thread by the usual suspects is truly remarkable.

Utterly disgusting levels of lies and misrepresentation being used by ignorant, racist bigots attempting to paint every immigrant as a rapist, a murderer or a child trafficker.

You people are ******* disgusting animals... I wouldn't **** on you if you were on fire.

I'd rather have a thousand of those "immigrants" than 1 of you xenophobic, racist sacks of **** who keep posting utter ******** with 0 evidence and claim they know best.
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But I suspect you don't "have" any, let alone a thousand and leave details like financing their food, health and housing to the British taxpayer. Are you Ed Balls?
 
elrasho said:
another right wing thread, wonder how the OP would feel if he/she was the asylum seeker
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Do not make the mistake of thinking that all asylum seekers are the same, or all behave in the same way. That is how the lunatic fringe want you to think, that all immigrants (legal and illegal) are victims in some way.

Some (genuine) asylum seekers are happily (and gratefully) applying for asylum in France, Sweden, Germany (etc) and upholding the law.

Some asylum seekers illegal immigrants choose instead to act as criminals. Establishing illegal camps, committing crimes against the local populations where their camps reside, committing crimes against *each other* in those camps, breaking into vehicles to attempt to illegally bypass border controls.

One group my sympathy, the other does not. Can you guess which is which?
 
Devilman said:
Down to personal insults already I see? More integrity on display, go you!




I'll ask again in case you somehow missed it....



Now, are you going to backup that claim with proof, or are you going to conceded that you lied and made it up?
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Down to personal insults you say? I get the posts by direct e-mail, but one of your worst has been removed from the forum, so I must not quote that one, so this will have to do:

"
The level of blatent <sp> xenophobia, dog-whistling racism and "immigrant blaming" going on in this thread by the usual suspects is truly remarkable.

Utterly disgusting levels of lies and misrepresentation being used by ignorant, racist bigots attempting to paint every immigrant as a rapist, a murderer or a child trafficker.

You people are ******* disgusting animals... I wouldn't **** on you if you were on fire.

I'd rather have a thousand of those "immigrants" than 1 of you xenophobic, racist sacks of **** who keep posting utter ******** with 0 evidence and claim they know best."


I wouldn't like to hear you when you get really insulting <LOL>
 
chroniclard said:
Do you have evidence the vast majority of the UK are a bit racist or is it made up guff again?
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The Left often cite the overwhelming vote for the Conservative Party and leaving the EU on a mainly anti immigrant stance as evidence of this, they chant it like a continuous loop cassette recording ;) Make no mistake, a failure to address the ever rising level of illegal migration across the Channel and by other means will lead to a more general, and undeserved antipathy towards ALL immigrants. Genuine immigrants should reflect on this and see that.
 
elrasho said:
another right wing thread, wonder how the OP would feel if he/she was the asylum seeker
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People do not believe these are mainly genuine asylum seekers, they are canny enough to realize they are economic migrants hell bent on illegally entering the UK as they see us as a soft touch backed by support from a vociferous liberal youth element who cannot be seen by their peers as saying anything at all against all and any immigration.
 
FoxEye said:
Appeal to emotion... check. - Incorrect, no appeal to emotion was made. Not off to a good start are you?
Calling everyone racists... check. - No, I called the people intentionally misrepresenting facts as evidence to support their ignorant opinion(s). Incorrect for a 2nd time, not going well is it?
Misrepresenting the opponent... check. - No misrepresentation was being made - unless you think describing racist, xenophobic dog whistlers as "racist, xenophobic dog whislers" is inaccurate somehow? Incorrect 3 for 3... Wow, you're really going great.
Zero counter-arguments made... check. - No counter argument was required, I was not challenging any specific claim in that post. Wow, 4 things, 4 incorrect claims.. You really need to try reading what is written, not what you THINK is written. Your bias is showing.

Is this parody or just your typical SJW? You decide!
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Is this stupidity or willful ignorance? You decide!


*Edit* Also, it's nice to see you follow Mcstylists earlier example and claim I was "Calling everyone racists". Do we need to get into another run "don't be a liar" like I had with him earlier?

You gonna have the integrity to step up and show me where I said "Everyone is a racist" as you claim?
 
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