Legal aid should not fund asylum legal action.

The Running Man said:
They also tend to be better educated and take more managerial jobs than most groups:


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So white people are being are being discriminated in their own country?
 
Mrwong said:
When did I say that? it is how you interpret it, not how I see it. You cant just accuse people of what you said when I never said that.
You are also insulting people.

I gave you a very short historical view, and said every race country has been at both ends. You focus on the British empire there have been many empires that have worse human right records.

Genghis Khan had largest land based empire in world history, yet you have not said anything about his empire which was more brutal than the British by far.

As I said Indian empires also treated people very bad yet you have not spoke about that.

When people solely speak about the British empire and constantly degrade the British people about history then they are racist. You need to learn history and then you will not be able to blame the British.
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This thread is about people coming to Britain not Mongolia.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
There you go.

I was referring to when the British were in power.

They massacred tens of millions through lots of different processes.

Like forced migration. Religious segregation. Stealing all the food for themselves causing a famine which killed circa 5 million. Stealing all the wealth which amounted to £45 trillion.

There was also many many mass shootings of innocent civilians. I've seen the bullet holes myself and the Wells people jumped into trying to flee the tirade of British bullets. I'm talking unarmed men, women and children and this wasn't hundreds of years ago either just in the last century.

Britain ruined the country, killed anyone who got in their way or peacefully protested, stole everything they could and left them with nothing.

He says it was their own doing. They forced the British to shoot them whilst they were standing unarmed near a religious place of worship the golden temple. They were the cause they are his words.

Sufficient time to resolve the mess the British left behind. Of course if some idiot decides to create a border but decides to only do half of it. People are going to fight over the other half. Neither side want to give up the land so what resolution does he think is acceptable?

Does he also believe that when the Sikhs demanded their own land khalistan another sikh genocide happened. Should the Indian government granted them their own land like the British did with the muslims? Because their response was to go in and just kill them all.

Do you think the British government today would be so willing to give say a part of England to them so they can officially have their own country and home? After all they did kill tens of millions and stole everything they had. How about handing over £45 trillion worth of England to them? Then see how the English react?

There would be riots in the streets. More people massacred. To say that they should sort it out is just retarded. If he thinks it's as simple as that then his brain obviously doesn't understand complex situations.
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As you choose not to cite where you are posting from I have to assume it's from outside the UK, given your open hatred and distaste at this country's history. If you are in the UK how do you balance living in a country you have such open contempt for?
 
Has lockdown sent a number of regular posters over the edge or something? These forums have taken a bizarre turn recently.

Anger issues, paranoia, obsessive behaviour... Get some help. :p
 
Mrwong said:
If you live in a house your family have more rights than a visitor. The same goes for the UK, the natives have more rights than the visitors( immigrants).
If the natives wish to live of the state then be it, but immigrants and asylum seekers should not full stop.
Can't you see the difference between natives and those that have no connection to the UK.

Ok I guess you agree in not giving asylums and immigrants any support no money from the state no homes etc... I 100 %agree 1gen migrants should not be entitled to anything apart from a pension if they paid towards it.
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Why should natives have more rights than immigrants? I fundamentally disagree with that. We should have equal rights no matter what.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
Not sure if this is sarcastic...

No. The Indians in these stats are hard working people who are driven to succeed. Not sure why that is discrimination?
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Or there family climb up ladders out side there uni to give them the answers ;)
The Avg person in India hasn't got 2 coins spare to rub together.
 
deuse said:
Or there family climb up ladders out side there uni to give them the answers ;)
The Avg person in India hasn't got 2 coins spare to rub together.
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That's just stupid. Did you go to school with any Indians? They have a crazy work ethic and it's for the exact reason you point out - most Indians are very poor. Therefore, they drive their children and themselves to succeed in education so that they can make a better life for themselves.

There's a reason why so many Indians (and other immigrants for that matter) do such awful jobs for long hours. For themselves and for the future.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
Why should natives have more rights than immigrants? I fundamentally disagree with that. We should have equal rights no matter what.
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So you as a home owner should not have more right and extra privilege than a visitor or a guest to your home?
The guest can do what ever he like in your home?

This can be applied to the uk, as a native you have more rights than a none native.
 
Mrwong said:
So you as a home owner should not have more right and extra privilege than a visitor or a guest to your home?
The guest can do what ever he like in your home?

This can be applied to the uk, as a native you have more rights than a none native.
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My home and this country are not equal. So I wouldn't apply the same criteria to both.

No, I don't think that natives should have more rights than immigrants as I stated previously.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
My home and this country are not equal. So I wouldn't apply the same criteria to both.

No, I don't think that natives should have more rights than immigrants as I stated previously.
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That is how it is. If not this country would be over run and your life would be worse.
There is a social agreement in place a unsigned contract between you and the state.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
That's just stupid. Did you go to school with any Indians? They have a crazy work ethic and it's for the exact reason you point out - most Indians are very poor. Therefore, they drive their children and themselves to succeed in education so that they can make a better life for themselves.

There's a reason why so many Indians (and other immigrants for that matter) do such awful jobs for long hours. For themselves and for the future.
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Hmmmmmm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/v...e-buildings-indian-students-cheat-exams-video

 
dirtychinchilla said:
Right so you're going to quote one article from 2015 to prove your point? What about all the doctors, the dentists, the nurses, the lawyers, the engineers, the CEOs, the accountants that are Indian? Did they cheat their way to the top?
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Well I can prove they do cheat.
Can you prove they don't? that would be a no.

My X GF who now lives in Punjab tells me it's still rampant.

"More than half the people claiming to be doctors in India have no medical qualifications. Can a controversial crash course in medicine help improve the healthcare they offer?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cswvrd They are known cheats.

"LONDON: A man who pretended being a doctor and then attempted to murder his wife and her family members over fears of his secret being exposed has been sentenced to 28 years' imprisonment by a UK court."

https://www.newindianexpress.com/wo...for-knife-attack-on-family-in-uk-2099020.html

"Special Report: Why India's medical schools are plagued with fraud"

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-i...-are-plagued-with-fraud-idUKKBN0OW1NM20150617

"Fake Indian doctor infects 33 people with HIV after using dirty syringe"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-India-quack-uses-tainted-syringe-police.html
 
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No, I'm not even going to attempt to argue with you about it. If you believe that all Indians are cheating their way to the top then you're being willfully ignorant.

OK you could say the same for me, but I would rather give people the benefit of the doubt and not making sweeping generalisations about their ethics and character.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
No, I'm not even going to attempt to argue with you about it. If you believe that all Indians are cheating their way to the top then you're being willfully ignorant.

OK you could say the same for me, but I would rather give people the benefit of the doubt and not making sweeping generalisations about their ethics and character.
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The fallacy commited (in deuse's post) is the fallacy of composition:

Ie. claiming that because some are x, the whole (all of them) are x.

It has the same irrational nature as claiming that because a bicycle has some round parts, it necessarily follows that the whole bicycle is round.

Which is an obvious error of reasoning.
 
deuse said:
Well I can prove they do cheat.
Can you prove they don't? that would be a no.

My X GF who now lives in Punjab tells me it's still rampant.

"More than half the people claiming to be doctors in India have no medical qualifications. Can a controversial crash course in medicine help improve the healthcare they offer?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cswvrd They are known cheats.

"LONDON: A man who pretended being a doctor and then attempted to murder his wife and her family members over fears of his secret being exposed has been sentenced to 28 years' imprisonment by a UK court."

https://www.newindianexpress.com/wo...for-knife-attack-on-family-in-uk-2099020.html

"Special Report: Why India's medical schools are plagued with fraud"

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-i...-are-plagued-with-fraud-idUKKBN0OW1NM20150617

"Fake Indian doctor infects 33 people with HIV after using dirty syringe"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-India-quack-uses-tainted-syringe-police.html
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There's 1.4 billion Indian people FFS. Tarring them all with the same brush is another example of the racism exhibited in this thread from the usual suspects.
 
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