Lenovo Legion 5 Pro

shamus21 · 23 Mar 2023 at 06:15

Paul11 said:
I saw that and tried it but it didnt work

so i might wait for a better deal to come along.

Don`t rush in paul11 pricing to high for now and the 4060 / 4070 do not offer a lot over the last Gen. The only good thing about 2023 laptops are the new intel and amd HX cpu`s and DDR 5.

michty_me · 23 Mar 2023 at 07:05

What sort of performance difference is there between a Pro with 5800H and 3070 compared to a 6800H/12700H 3070Ti?

I'm weighing up my options as I have CL20 dual channel RAM that should give a boost in performance on the 5800H where as the 6800H/12700H would be DDR5.

oweneades · 24 Mar 2023 at 09:06

michty_me said:
What sort of performance difference is there between a Pro with 5800H and 3070 compared to a 6800H/12700H 3070Ti?

I'm weighing up my options as I have CL20 dual channel RAM that should give a boost in performance on the 5800H where as the 6800H/12700H would be DDR5.

Performance uplift will be around 10-20% depending on the game and settings used. The 6800H system won't be any faster in real terms CPU wise whilst the 12700H will be quicker in titles which hammer say a single CPU core / low amount of threads (vs the 6800H).

For context I am basing this on the following that I have tested across a number of games at both 1400p and 3440x1440:

Zephyrus G15 with 100-120w 3080 (roughly max TGP 3070 tier performance) & 6800HS
Legion 7 with 150-165w (max TGP) 3080 & 5800H
Flow Z13 with 150-165w (max TGP) 3080 & 12900H

The latter two will be faster in full GPU bound scenarios than a 3070Ti and the delta from the G15 to them is in the region of 15-25%, again depending on game and settings used.

Right now I would hold off changing over to the 3070Ti laptop from what you have as the performance jump isn't enough for the potential outlay. Annoyingly you really need a 4080 or 4090 based laptop to see any form of material uplift (for context with overclocking (~1950/15500) I can get my Legion within 10% of a 4080 based Legion at 1440p in CP2077). Downside of course is that those laptops (sans the Strix 16 with 13650HX & Gigabyte 17H with 13700H) are all £2.8k+ to buy.

michty_me · 24 Mar 2023 at 10:22

oweneades said:
Performance uplift will be around 10-20% depending on the game and settings used. The 6800H system won't be any faster in real terms CPU wise whilst the 12700H will be quicker in titles which hammer say a single CPU core / low amount of threads (vs the 6800H).

For context I am basing this on the following that I have tested across a number of games at both 1400p and 3440x1440:

Zephyrus G15 with 100-120w 3080 (roughly max TGP 3070 tier performance) & 6800HS
Legion 7 with 150-165w (max TGP) 3080 & 5800H
Flow Z13 with 150-165w (max TGP) 3080 & 12900H

The latter two will be faster in full GPU bound scenarios than a 3070Ti and the delta from the G15 to them is in the region of 15-25%, again depending on game and settings used.

Right now I would hold off changing over to the 3070Ti laptop from what you have as the performance jump isn't enough for the potential outlay. Annoyingly you really need a 4080 or 4090 based laptop to see any form of material uplift (for context with overclocking (~1950/15500) I can get my Legion within 10% of a 4080 based Legion at 1440p in CP2077). Downside of course is that those laptops (sans the Strix 16 with 13650HX & Gigabyte 17H with 13700H) are all £2.8k+ to buy.

Great, Thanks for the input into it. I think you may be right in all honesty, By the time I desperately need to update my laptop we may be another generation of GPU's ahead so I may wait it out for now.
For refernece I'm currently using a 4800H/2060 laptop currently.

oweneades · 24 Mar 2023 at 10:49

michty_me said:
Great, Thanks for the input into it. I think you may be right in all honesty, By the time I desperately need to update my laptop we may be another generation of GPU's ahead so I may wait it out for now.
For refernece I'm currently using a 4800H/2060 laptop currently.

Ah sorry I read your post assuming you had the 5800H/3070 machine already.

I would say if you can get one of those (or with a 3070Ti) for a good price then it will still be sizable upgrade from your current laptop. As you say though if your current one is doing the job then waiting for either 4xxx series price drops of 5xxx series laptops is the sensible option.

michty_me · 24 Mar 2023 at 11:02

I'll see what crops up but I'm in no rush to upgrade really. I'll perhaps wait for deals on later GPU's as likely won't utilise it fully for a little while yet.

LiE · 5 Apr 2023 at 13:24

MOOGLEYS · 5 Apr 2023 at 13:35

Good price is that the student offer ?

LiE · 5 Apr 2023 at 13:41

MOOGLEYS said:
Good price is that the student offer ?

Yep. I've shared it on the deals site this morning.

Minstadave · 5 Apr 2023 at 13:50

Not bad for the spec at all.

LiE · 5 Apr 2023 at 13:55

Minstadave said:
Not bad for the spec at all.

I think it's about what you'd want to pay for this spec, not the silly prices you see e.g. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...240hz-i7-13700hx-gaming-laptop-lt-0eu-gi.html

shamus21 · 5 Apr 2023 at 15:19

Pity i can not get student excess or i would grab one, good specs.

Paul11 · 5 Apr 2023 at 17:04

What do you need to prove you are a student?

Where can I get a code?

LiE · 5 Apr 2023 at 17:28

It's gone back up to 1615 now.

Paul11 · 18 Apr 2023 at 18:20

I ended up buying

LENOVO Legion 5i Pro 16" Gaming Laptop - Intel® Core™ i7, RTX 3070 Ti, 1 TB SSD 16gb ram

what is a good RAM kit to upgrade to?

Cromulent · 24 May 2023 at 18:56

I'm seriously thinking of getting one around the £1,500 mark. I'll only game occasionally on it, so I don't want to go all in on a top-end GPU but would an Nvidia 4060 be OK for light gaming? Mainly the Total War series of games.

OspreyO · 24 May 2023 at 19:57

While I still love mine with the 3060. I don't love the power brick the size of small car. As I don't game that much, I think I could have got away with a lesser gpu and a smaller more portable machine. Other than that I still think it's fantastic laptop.

Hedge · 24 May 2023 at 20:54

FloppyPoppy · 24 May 2023 at 20:57

the legions really are great! you will love it. i have been lucky enough (worked hard enough) to have owned a high end laptop from most major manufacturers and i will always chose the legions over the others i’ve used (Alienwares, Aorus, Msi & Razer) The legions just seem to be better checked out of the factory. Never any underlying issues.

Hedge · 24 May 2023 at 21:02

FloppyPoppy said:
the legions really are great! you will love it. i have been lucky enough (worked hard enough) to have owned a high end laptop from most major manufacturers and i will always chose the legions over the others i’ve used (Alienwares, Aorus, Msi & Razer) The legions just seem to be better checked out of the factory. Never any underlying issues.

That's good to know. It was a bit of an impulse buy. But I have been looking to get a 3070ti specced one for under a grand so I jumped when I saw it.

Lenovo Legion 5 Pro

LENOVO Legion 5i Pro 16" Gaming Laptop - Intel® Core™ i7, RTX 3070 Ti, 1 TB SSD 16gb ram​

LENOVO Legion 5i Pro 16" Gaming Laptop - Intel® Core™ i7, RTX 3070 Ti, 1 TB SSD 16gb ram