Lenovo x121e netbook

Blimey... the 1.5kg quoted for for this machine made me think twice!



Yeah I'm not interested in the whole iPad thing. I did consider the Asus Eee Pad Transformer, but I'm not quite ready to make the jump from Windows. I'm not going to be using 3G at the moment, but it's nice to know it's possible in the future.

The iPad's not bad but like you say its a large step down from a PC really and all i ever really used it for was browsing the net which i couldnt justify its price for really - im not an apple fan either so that didnt help :) - i can see the appeal for people that play lots of silly games but it doesnt appeal to me.

Dont know if others ordered the 3G too but ill comment on that when its here.
 
On another note, whats special about the size of the drive in the x121then? Is it thinner smaller etc? - ive seen pics on here demonstrating SATA3 speeds.. but i wont putchase an SSD for a few months anyway so ill confirm this when mine turns up.

It is 7mm thick rather than the normal 9.5mm. The supplied drive is a Seagate Momentus Thin ST320LT007.
 
Here are some basic benchmarks on the i3-2367m version, Windows 7 Pro:

Out the box and Lenovo updates applied only, with 2GB RAM:
Processor 5.2
Memory 5.5
Graphics 4.5
Gaming Graphics 6.1
Primary Hard Disk 5.9
3DMark06 3061

As above except with 8GB Crucial RAM fitted
(changes highlighted in red)
Processor 5.2
Memory 7.1
Graphics 4.5
Gaming Graphics 6.2
Primary Hard Disk 5.9
3DMark06 3659
Summary: Big improvements shown on Memory (obviously) and 3dMark score.

Fresh install on 128GB Samsung 830 SSD with all updates applied
(changes highlighted in red)
Processor 5.2
Memory 7.1
Graphics 5.4
Gaming Graphics 6.2
Primary Hard Disk 7.9
3DMark06 3663
Summary: Big improvements shown on Hard Disk (obviously), and Graphics bumped up so that Processor is now the limiting factor. No jump in 3dMark or Gaming Graphics.

The Samsung 830 SSD is a perfect fit without modification. Once the bottom panel of the notebook has been removed (3 screws) there is easy access to both the RAM and the HD.
To change the HD for a SSD: Remove 2 screws to take out the original HD which is in a half-length caddy.
Now remove the 2 screws holding the caddy to the HD.
Refit the caddy to the SSD, and then slide it back into place.

In order to install a clean version of Windows 7 on the SSD you will need to change one setting in the BIOS - on the startup tab modify UEFI/Legacy Boot Priority to Legacy First. You can change this back after installing Windows 7.

I manually downloaded the drivers for the LAN and the ThinkVantage System Update tool from the Lenovo Support Pages. I then let the tool download all the other drivers for me. For some reason I needed to manually install the Chipset drivers, though.

The crystalmark for the Samsung 830 are:
Seq: Read: 491.6 | Write: 324.9
512k: Read: 349.9 | Write: 299.1
4k: Read: 19.7 | Write: 48.36
4k QD32: Read: 174.0 | Write: 101.4
 
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The crystalmark for the Samsung 830 are:
Seq: Read: 491.6 | Write: 324.9
512k: Read: 349.9 | Write: 299.1
4k: Read: 19.7 | Write: 48.36
4k QD32: Read: 174.0 | Write: 101.4

This proves that its SATA3 just so everyone else is aware thats well above the bandwifthblimit of SATA2's 300mbps.

How about boot times etc?

Reallllllly wish i bought better RAM else where :(
 
Dual booting Ubuntu 11.10 64bit and Windows 7:

You may (like me) think this should be a straightforward task... sadly it isn't! There are issues with UEFI that make this quite a headache. However, I have managed to get a dual boot working with relative ease on a fresh SSD.

Step 1. In the BIOS (used for ease of terminology) startup tab modify UEFI/Legacy Boot Priority to Legacy First. If you don't do that, Windows installer will see the drive but will politely tell you that you can't install on to it.
Step 2. Run Windows 7 installer, and let it do its thing on the empty SSD
Step 3. Google for "fixparts" utility and then run it. If you don't, ubuntu is about to see an empty SSD...
Step 4. Run Ubuntu 11.10 installer, and install it alongside Windows.
Step 5. Reboot, and you'll see no Grub... Windows will start up and you'll be scratching your head about what just happened. So boot into a live Ubuntu session so that you can reinstall grub. You need to find your linux partition (sudo fdisk -l). Lets say it is sda5. You'll need to mount it (sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt) and then reinstall Grub (sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda). Restart, and you should have a normal Grub screen. Happy days!
Step 6. Set the UEFI/Legacy Boot Priority back to how it was, if you want.

3G works, and to get the a/b/g/n adapter (Broadcom BCM43224) to work you need to blacklist bcma
 
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Something that has disturbed me is how hot it gets. Surely that cant be right. The fan does not bother me that much. Is there a section to configure the touchpad more?
 
This laptop/netbook is really getting a lot of attention here on OC however I just can't see the justification for an 11.6' laptop... you can only really go either way

1. netbook, in which case a lovely little 9/10' for throwing around
2. laptop 13.3-15.6' for work/writing/gaming/etc

The lenovo seems like a half-way house... surely the reason for its price.

As a primary laptop seems to be the main reason for purchase in which case for an extra £50 there are 13.3' on the market to do your bidding...

And yet people are buying it and by and large are happy.
- The build quality is better than any netbook I've used
- Netbooks have become quite expensive, but still have slow processors. I just can't put up with that. (don't forget the original eee pc was under £150)
- The screen res is pretty reasonable, I can generally see what I'm doing, and its a decent enough res to do some coding on there
- I want to be able to pop it in my bag without noticing it.
- I prefer a nipple

I have a 14" work machine, its too big in this world of widescreen
 
Would the E-450 version be ok as a work/business computer? Only doing the email/internet thing and running Microsoft Office.
Wife has an old Acer with a Core 2 T5250.Should the E-450 be step up?
 
Would the E-450 version be ok as a work/business computer? Only doing the email/internet thing and running Microsoft Office.
Wife has an old Acer with a Core 2 T5250.Should the E-450 be step up?

The i3 would be, the E450 is a "high end netbook" grade processor - possibly slower than what you have, certainly no faster. But for office / internet it'll be fine.
You will see advantages in terms of batter life over your old machine, i'd expect
 
And yet people are buying it and by and large are happy.
- The build quality is better than any netbook I've used
- Netbooks have become quite expensive, but still have slow processors. I just can't put up with that. (don't forget the original eee pc was under £150)
- The screen res is pretty reasonable, I can generally see what I'm doing, and its a decent enough res to do some coding on there
- I want to be able to pop it in my bag without noticing it.
- I prefer a nipple

I have a 14" work machine, its too big in this world of widescreen

I agree the build quality is really impressive especially when you consider the price. I only ordered 2GB RAM so I could add my own and even without the upgrade it loads up pretty quickly. I personally do not see the problem with the screen but then again I do happen to have very good eyesight. And for someone with a considerally smaller lap then some of you guys the small size is ideal for me.

My main issues are the audio which really is not very good, the heat the thing gives off (any suggestions on that would be greatly appreciated) and the trackpad but I am slowly adjusting to it.
 
This laptop/netbook is really getting a lot of attention here on OC however I just can't see the justification for an 11.6' laptop... you can only really go either way

1. netbook, in which case a lovely little 9/10' for throwing around
2. laptop 13.3-15.6' for work/writing/gaming/etc

The lenovo seems like a half-way house... surely the reason for its price.

As a primary laptop seems to be the main reason for purchase in which case for an extra £50 there are 13.3' on the market to do your bidding...

I had a netbook and its terrible so slow it did not cost that much less than this machine. This is pretty quick and I only ordered it with 2GB RAM with the view to update it with some crucial RAM. And even on 2 its pretty nippy. The other option like you say is a bigger laptop, which is no good to me. Portability is important and obviously this is smaller but also actual use. Even this is slightly bigger than I like but anything bigger would be very uncomfortable on my lap, I am pretty slim and find friends laptops too big and bulky for me. Wish I had saved my money and bought this instead to start with.
 
Now and then it does pick up on a false click, I just put that down to being hesitant with gestures and getting used to it...I need to give the laptop chance, it is small, the keyboard layout is different (Fn where Ctrl should be), trackpad is small, I have a nipple to play with. So far I am liking the whole package, for the money it's a cracking deal IMO.

OK that's reassuring. I still think I'll have to rely on the trackpad, but, yeah, I'll certainly give the trackpoint a go too. Regarding the Fn/Ctrl switch, have you tried this?

There is an option to swap in the bios - Config -> Keyboard and mouse


I guess it would be okay assuming the memory is rated the same speed and latency etc but it is dual channel so matching brand modules just makes sense, and as I wanted 8GB buying the lot and tossing the 2GB was cheaper than upgrading to 4GB and buying another 4...

I have ordered the 2GB version and plan to either another 2GB, or go all out and stick in 2 x 4GB modules as you have done. 8GB does seem overkill for my requirements, so I'll probably go for 4GB. I really am struggling to think of anything that would require so much RAM!


With the X121e, I'm finding the fan noise rather annoying. Based on the BIOS profile in tpfancontrol, the fan turns on at 45 degrees and off at 40 degrees. The problem with this is that it virtually never returns to 40 degrees after even a light amount of use, stabilising at around 43 degrees or so when idle.

The fan in my opinion is also rather noisy, even at level 1. Does anyone know if there's a BIOS update that alters fan behaviour? At the moment, I'm running tpfancontrol with higher temperature thresholds before the fan kicks in, but that's not that ideal. I'd much rather there actually be a slower fan speed that's on all the time.

I use SpeedFan on my PC. You can specify different fan speeds for different temperature ranges. May be worth a go?


Its always been my opinion you shoild ALWAYS charge a battery to full then run it to complete flat even when your sitting next to the power cable, just pop the cable out and run it down till Windows moans about low power (5% warning) but others do.t agree with this.

I’ve heard this is important to maintain battery life, though few people bother. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to unplug the battery when running from mains to prevent that constant recharging… any thoughts on this?


Here are some basic benchmarks on the i3-2367m version, Windows 7 Pro:

Thanks for sharing this. For the price, upgrading the memory is a no-brainer. Just need to decide whether I’ll be limiting the system by going for 4GB rather than 8GB. I was quite surprised by the big boost to graphics performance using an SSD!


Dual booting Ubuntu 11.10 64bit and Windows 7:

You may (like me) think this should be a straightforward task... sadly it isn't! There are issues with UEFI that make this quite a headache. However, I have managed to get a dual boot working with relative ease on a fresh SSD.

Step 1. In the BIOS (used for ease of terminology) startup tab modify UEFI/Legacy Boot Priority to Legacy First. If you don't do that, Windows installer will see the drive but will politely tell you that you can't install on to it.
Step 2. Run Windows 7 installer, and let it do its thing on the empty SSD
Step 3. Google for "fixparts" utility and then run it. If you don't, ubuntu is about to see an empty SSD...
Step 4. Run Ubuntu 11.10 installer, and install it alongside Windows.
Step 5. Reboot, and you'll see no Grub... Windows will start up and you'll be scratching your head about what just happened. So boot into a live Ubuntu session so that you can reinstall grub. You need to find your linux partition (sudo fdisk -l). Lets say it is sda5. You'll need to mount it (sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt) and then reinstall Grub (sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda). Restart, and you should have a normal Grub screen. Happy days!
Step 6. Set the UEFI/Legacy Boot Priority back to how it was, if you want.

3G works, and to get the a/b/g/n adapter (Broadcom BCM43224) to work you need to blacklist bcma

I’ll make sure I keep this info as I might well have a go with ubuntu. One thing that was putting me off was problems with the wireless, so it’s good to know there’s a work around for the high-bandwidth module.


And yet people are buying it and by and large are happy.
- The build quality is better than any netbook I've used
- Netbooks have become quite expensive, but still have slow processors. I just can't put up with that. (don't forget the original eee pc was under £150)
- The screen res is pretty reasonable, I can generally see what I'm doing, and its a decent enough res to do some coding on there
- I want to be able to pop it in my bag without noticing it.
- I prefer a nipple

I have a 14" work machine, its too big in this world of widescreen

This pretty much sums up my thoughts after doing quite a bit of research… I just hope I’m not disappointed when it arrives. I was originally planning to go for a netbook, which would have cost ~£250. For ~£330 I can get what I hope will be usable as a main computer - I would rather have just one machine if possible. I did look at 13.3” laptops but, unless you pay quite a bit more money, you’ll have the same screen resolution and comparable performance (I think). If I could justify spending twice the money I probably would have gone for a decent 13.3” laptop.
 
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I've just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my x121e. Im having some trouble with my wireless internet being a lot slower than my desktop's wireless internet. In fact it's about half the speed.

x121e wireless: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1619924906.png
x121e wired:http://www.speedtest.net/result/1619927562.png

It is pretty consistent. Thing is if i do the same on my desktop on ubuntu, wireless and wired is more or less the same speed. Oh and yes my broadband sucks. It looks as though Virgin has capped me for the evening.
 
Have you tried compiling the Broadcom drivers from source?


No I haven't, I'll give it a go.

I'm having a little trouble in my windows install. I re-installed windows and have installed most of the drivers. In device manager however, there is one device that is showing up as "unknown device". I just can't work out what it is..

I have video, sound, bluetooth, card reader, networking, all the obvious things installed.

Also, I have downloaded the OSD software from the lenovo website (IMO the only worthwhile piece of software that came with the laptop) but I cannot get that working either.

I'd really appreciate any suggestions.
 
No I haven't, I'll give it a go.

I'm having a little trouble in my windows install. I re-installed windows and have installed most of the drivers. In device manager however, there is one device that is showing up as "unknown device". I just can't work out what it is..

I have video, sound, bluetooth, card reader, networking, all the obvious things installed.

Also, I have downloaded the OSD software from the lenovo website (IMO the only worthwhile piece of software that came with the laptop) but I cannot get that working either.

I'd really appreciate any suggestions.

Have you installed the power management driver? I missed that one first time around..
 
My main issues are the audio which really is not very good, the heat the thing gives off (any suggestions on that would be greatly appreciated) and the trackpad but I am slowly adjusting to it.
Mine certainly feels hot, I agree.
But the actual temperatures do not appear to cause concern...
Core Temps ~60C
Mainboard ~32C
SSD ~37C
I can't find the thermal limits anywhere for i3-2367m but if I find them I'll post them up.
Edit - I think it is 100C
 
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How have you guys found the order process? How long have people had to wait before receiving the laptop? I ordered mine last week and the orders status hasn't changed. Hope that the hard drive shortages don't delay it too much.
 
How have you guys found the order process? How long have people had to wait before receiving the laptop? I ordered mine last week and the orders status hasn't changed. Hope that the hard drive shortages don't delay it too much.
Mine arrived after a week. It was shipped 2 days after the order was placed (I also had the order warning about HDD delays)
 
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