Lent

Angilion said:
You have just asked me if I don't celebrate Christmas in reply to a post in which I wrote that I don't celebrate Christmas. Doesn't that seem strange to you?

If you meant to ask if I meant that I don't celebrate Christmas, then yes, that is what I meant. I don't celebrate Christmas.

If you meant to ask why, the answer is simple. It's a religious festival for two religions in ancient Rome, none of which I follow, that was usurped by a made-up festival for Christianity, another religion I don't follow, and peppered with bits Christianity absorbed from other religions I don't follow. So Christmas has nothing to do with me - why would I celebrate it?

If you're mistaking Christmas for the secular midwinter festival, well, that's a common mistake that I don't make. Christ's Mass is not a secular thing. I don't celebrate the secular midwinter festival either, but that's just because I don't care about a commercialism festival that's usurped a Christian festival that's usurped a Mithraic festival and an older Roman festival.
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Clipsey said:
Angilion - I think you have missed the other point of Christmas, you don't have to be religious to celebrate it. If you only believed in that, i presume your life is pretty dull if you believe in everything so strongly as you do in the drivel above. Or are you selectively trying to be cool by not 'conforming'
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Yeah, like you're trying to be cool by insulting people for not following common hypocrisy. Should I descend to your level and burble "get a life!"?

If you want to pretend that Christ's Mass is not a religious thing, feel free to do so. It won't make you right and by itself it won't make you interesting.

I explicitly referred to the secular midwinter festival. Why did you ignore that reference?
 
I'm not in the slightest bit religious so I won't be giving up anything in particular for lent. If you don't follow the religion I don't see the point. Why not just give something up anyway?

If you do follow the religion though then I guess that there's good reason for lent.

I don't disagree with it myself, religion has it's place. It's just not for me.
 
Cakes, biscuits and puddings this year.
Gave up sugar in tea last year and like it that way now.
I enjoy all the christian festivals :)
 
cheets64 said:
I use to drink every weekend and when I gave it up by the end of lent I was so healthy,
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I doubt that just over a month off the boose will class you as healthy but i would expect you to see some noticable improvements in terms of body composition, complexion, sleep etc.

Pestilence said:
Yep, I've already had a telling off from the doctor regarding liver enzymes in blood tests, and recurring attacks of gout.
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Why wait till lent then?

I tend to go through a 70cl bottle of whiskey and 3/4 beers a week (across friday and saturday), plus whatever random I might have, such as a beer if I go out for lunch during the week etc.

My diet, in terms of food intake, isn't bad at all, but I'm still excessively overweight, and the lack of it shifting despite a decent diet must certainly be attributed to the alcohol (and subsequent snacking when drunk - no takeaways etc, I just demolish a large bag of crisps or something).
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Alcohol is empty calories so you could eat like a saint and drink yourself unconscious each night and you'd gain weight.

Ditch the excessive drinking and start exercising, even just going for a walk and you'll start to loose weight.

If you want more detailed advice post in SA.
 
cheets64 said:
Its only the same as what Muslims do for Ramadan.
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Is it though??...im not really clued up about Lent but its 46 days of fasting ie do you not eat or drink during the day but at night you break your fast so you can eat or drink??...or is it a practice where you just give up say alcohol for 46 days but still eat, drink etc etc??.

If its the second one then no sorry your wrong, its nothing like Ramadan as we do it for 30 days ie fast and we dont eat or drink anything during the day but at night, when the sun goes down we break open the fast and eat and drink.
 
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BennyC said:
If you want more detailed advice post in SA.
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I might just do that, mate. I also need some advice regarding good calorie-burning exercise that doesn't involve lots of leg use. I've suffered from horrendous shinsplints since I was a teenager (even before I got fat), and that's a major problem when it comes to exercising. Probably a strong factor in why my weight's gotten so out of hand, tbh.
 
Spawn said:
Is it though??...im not really clued up about Lent but its 46 days of fasting ie do you not eat or drink during the day but at night you break your fast so you can eat or drink??...or is it a practice where you just give up say alcohol for 46 days but still eat, drink etc etc??.

If its the second one then no sorry your wrong, its nothing like Ramadan as we do it for 30 days ie fast and we dont eat or drink anything during the day but at night, when the sun goes down we break open the fast and eat and drink.
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Well having looked up Ramadan

Fasting is intended to teach Muslims about patience, humility, and spirituality. It is a time for Muslims to fast for the sake of God (Arabic: الله‎, trans: Allah) and to offer more prayer than usual
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Lent is

Lent is a time of sacrifice for Jesus. The traditional purpose of Lent is the preparation of the believer — through prayer, repentance, almsgiving and self-denial — for the annual commemoration during Holy Week of the Death and Resurrection of Jesus, which recalls the events linked to the Passion of Christ and culminates in Easter, the celebration of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
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I was wrong about them being the same but they are almost identical in the aspect they do, one you can eat/drink while its sunny, the other is about giving up something you enjoy for till Easter Sunday.

You must have learned about the basics of Christian religion if you was brought up in an English school?
 
cheets64 said:
So if you don't give up something, how can you be given up something.

75& of this thread is people saying they are giving up giving up and its pointless.


Jog on
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You're thinking of giving up crisps and chocolate for a few weeks. Jog on.


What's the point in giving something up for a short period of time? If you're only going to do something for a short period of time (a month?)... would it not be better to DO something oppose to not do something?
 
I've given up Jogging for lent ;)

steve-h said:
You're thinking of giving up crisps and chocolate for a few weeks. Jog on.


What's the point in giving something up for a short period of time? If you're only going to do something for a short period of time (a month?)... would it not be better to DO something oppose to not do something?
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Nope, because that's not what the bible has instructed them to do.
 
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