Lets make a list of over-rated players

Benoît Assou-Ekotto for me. Incredibly frustrating to watch considering I'm a neutral when I see the Spurs games. When he shapes up to kick it down the line and waits for players to run there...Gahh! He takes out about 6 or 7 other options out when he does that. He does it all of the time aswell.

Another for me would be Kenwyne Jones.


He is liable to the occasional **** up which gets highlighted by the media but week in week out he has been outstanding for spurs, if anything he is under rated.
 
He is liable to the occasional **** up which gets highlighted by the media but week in week out he has been outstanding for spurs, if anything he is under rated.

BAE has made more interceptions in the Premiership than any other player. Zonal Marking makes a good case for why interceptions are more important than tackles in the modern game. He's as good a left back as there is in the Premier League for 95% of the time.

The other 5% of the time, he looks as lost as a penguin in the Sahara.
 
BAE has made more interceptions in the Premiership than any other player. Zonal Marking makes a good case for why interceptions are more important than tackles in the modern game. He's as good a left back as there is in the Premier League for 95% of the time.

The other 5% of the time, he looks as lost as a penguin in the Sahara.

Zonal Marking made a case for Denilson, and then Song being one of the best midfielders ever in the league because their pass completion ratio's are outstanding, with Denilson frequently hitting well over 90% in his "great" season where half the country thought he was brilliant, playing exactly the same way he does today when they all consider him to be rubbish.

THe problem is of course, that Denilson has a high pass rate because he rarely attempts passes that help the team, passing it back and killing a counter attack doesn't help the team it hurts it, yet will increase your pass completion ratio's. In other words, everything Zonal marking says is utter utter rubbish.
 
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(Just what I needed on Monday morning -thank you)


Psycho - just out of interest do you know the amount of times Rooney is played out of position by SAF in those 208 games? I would bet its a good 25% or approaching that kind of figure - for me that puts two factors in Rooney's favour;

1) He can still do a very good job for the team even in a position not favoured

2) His goal's to games ration (in his favoured position - so its like for like comparison) is actually much higher. Im wondering if any of hte other players mentioned were EVER played out of position.

Ronaldo was incredibly selfish as a player, and sometimes to the detriment of the result, maybe he deserved to be maybe he didnt - but personally I much prefer how Rooney and Berba are much more team players and will work together (and Chicarito also of course), rather than take every chance themseves.

Out of position in 25%??????? dont make me laugh its more like 0.25%
 
For me, it has to be Gareth "Monkey Face" Bale.

Extremely over-rated. People that call him the best in the world are just delusional Yids.

So you wouldnt have him in your team then?

He has been awesome this season, best player in the world no of course not but the way he has progressed this season and the end of last has been astonishing and this is why his value has rocketed. He is probably the most outstanding prospect in Europe at present.
 
It has to be Iker Casillas the man is useless goalkeeper , i don't know how he is first choice for Spain as Pepe Reina is much better then him .

Reina doesnt play in Spain and Casillas and Valdes both play in Spain. Also I think Reina was sold by Barca early on in his career, so I dont think he is rated highly by the Spanish.

Fabregas has the same problem, since he doesnt play in Spain he is overlooked by players who do if he moves to Barca then that will guarantee him more International games.
 
Maybe so but to be fair he has a lot of competition in midfield from top players like Xavi, Iniesta, Alonso etc. Not saying he shouldn't play more for Spain but I think there is more to it than simply the fact he plays in England.

There's no guarentee that if he went to Barca he would get in the club team given the fact they only seem to play 3 in midfield, he isn't going to displace Xavi or Iniesta and the 3rd spot normally goes to a more defensively minded player like Busquets or Mascherano. And if he's not playing for the club team, it could limit his international opportunities.
 
Care to explain?

If you watch West Ham regularly you will know that Scott Parker has virtually carried them single handedly over the past two seasons.

He is in line to be awarded his third consecutive club player of the year!

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Because he's not as good as people make him out to be .... surely that's the definition of being overrated?

Listen to commentators whenever they refer to Parker, it's like he should be the first name on the team sheet for England for example.

Thus, he's overrated. Sure, he's a decent player, but he's playing in a team that's struggled over the past 2 seasons. As such, it's hardly surprising he "carries them" or has won player of the year for the club.

Whilst I agree with a lot of the suggestions here, Parker certainly isn't over-rated.

Do you actually watch football?

I do indeed. I can also form my own opinion no less!

Considering you're donning a Hammers sig, with the man himself, i'm not in the least bit surprised you don't think he's overrated.
 
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Because he's not as good as people make him out to be .... surely that's the definition of being overrated?

I wasnt asking you to explain the definition of the word overrated I was asking why you think Scott Parker is overrated.

Listen to commentators whenever they refer to Parker, it's like he should be the first name on the team sheet for England for example.

So you are saying you think he is overrated because of what football commentators say?

I thought he made a good account of himself for England against Denmark and he was in the provisional WC squad last summer and was unfortunate to miss out (and will likely be named in the forthcoming squad versus Wales).

He's not just a "decent" player in a struggling team and I dont think he is overrated at all.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Because he's not as good as people make him out to be .... surely that's the definition of being overrated?

Listen to commentators whenever they refer to Parker, it's like he should be the first name on the team sheet for England for example.

:confused: I've never heard a commentator say that, or even close. Parker isn't over rated, but when people talk about West Ham there aren't many flattering things to say right now, so people talk about Parker, rightly so. Not only is he their best player, he drags the club through games almost single handedly sometimes. His performances vs Arsenal recently have been top class too
 
I wasnt asking you to explain the definition of the word overrated I was asking why you think Scott Parker is overrated.

And I answered. Because he isn't as good as people say he is. The definition was purely justification.


Nossmayo said:
So you are saying you think he is overrated because of what football commentators say?

Not at all. However for someone to be overrated to begin with, someone has to surely rate them higher than I do. The commentator aspect was an example.

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I thought he made a good account of himself for England against Denmark and he was in the provisional WC squad last summer and was unfortunate to miss out (and will likely be named in the forthcoming squad versus Wales).

He's not just a "decent" player in a struggling team and I dont think he is overrated at all.

He has all of 4 caps on the world stage over a what, 8 year period? I'm clearly not the only one who thinks that he isn't the player some make him out to be.

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We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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