LG 34GK950G, 3440x1440, G-Sync, 120Hz
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The post was in response to his comment about such stuff being subjective. It's pretty clear cut and that damage will not be influencing it.You mean another UW IPS, with BLB and glow? I cannot believe it, I was expecting one without glow and BLB
To be fair though that screen has been damaged so not the best to judge from.
?? There's hardly any on center glow or back light bleed in real life. Take a look at the text in the menu, the picture is WAY over exposed. The photo is not meant to judge BLB and IPS glow. In fact, I'm very happy with the panel's BLB (basically none) and the IPS glow is within what I consider normal limits and is not enough to cause an issue at the corners.
I'll be happy to post up actual representative pictures once I get the replacement panel.
You need a square-on photo with just a black background and the lights turned off for a better assessment. To say there is 'basically none' is not true, your panel is displaying the exact same issues as every IPS in existence including my Dell AW and all the other photos I've seen from others. However, your glow from that angle looks worse than the Dell.
None of this matters though in game, but speaking objectively from a technical standpoint the issues are there.
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In terms of severity BLB & glow can be considered to be an issue or not - but it is subjective from person to person how severe the effect has to be for it to be considered an issue/severe. You can't say that the issues are there because you only have a crappy overexposed potato quality image to judge. katscan has the monitor in their hands, and since they haven't provided a proper photo for us to judge the blb and glow you can't really say that. If it's overexposed (and it is) of course it looks bad. All that matters is whether the issues are noticeable with your eyes in a real use case - not with a sensor that can be set to more or less sensitive than human eyes.
There is obviously going to be IPS glow - it's an IPS panel. But from this overexposed off-angle photo you can't tell how severe it is. Some corner BLB is to be expected, but it's difficult to assess severity - which is all that matters. "Basically none" means you don't notice it, not that there is nothing there to see if you specifically try to look for it under 'bad' circumstances that exaggerate the effect.
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I can't say there are issues? Are you blind? The photo may be overexposed (and I already acknowledged the quality of the photo in a previous post) but it is exaggerating an underlying cause, it's not some magical ghostly aftereffect. The BLB in the corners is pretty standard and I doubt the quality of the photo is having any effect on it.
If you want to read subjective reviews and adopt other people's perception of what "basically none" means when the obvious is staring you in the face, go for it. I'm sure other people want unbiased technical details that they can make their own judgement on. I've already read the tftcentral review on this and it confirms it's just another IPS panel warts and all that is able to display a wide gamut. And again, this has almost no impact on normal day to day use, it's reasonably imperceptible unless you're playing extremely dark games... subjectively speaking
Why don’t you hold off judgement until I post an actual representative photo from the correct angle. Of course it has IPS glow. It’s an IPS panel. I have no idea if it’s better or worse than an Alienware because I haven’t seen one in person. The BLB is not perceptible to me. If you believe some of the photos out there, the minimal to no BLB looks better than the AW. At least on my current panel. The next one may be worse. Who knows. I should have it Fri/Sat and can post better pics then.
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I can't say there are issues? Are you blind? The photo may be overexposed (and I already acknowledged the quality of the photo in a previous post) but it is exaggerating an underlying cause, it's not some magical ghostly aftereffect. The BLB in the corners is pretty standard and I doubt the quality of the photo is having any effect on it.
If you want to read subjective reviews and adopt other people's perception of what "basically none" means when the obvious is staring you in the face, go for it. I'm sure other people want unbiased technical details that they can make their own judgement on. I've already read the tftcentral review on this and it confirms it's just another IPS panel warts and all that is able to display a wide gamut. And again, this has almost no impact on normal day to day use, it's reasonably imperceptible unless you're playing extremely dark games... subjectively speaking
If you'd read the entirety of my post you would've read that I said "there is obviously going to be IPS glow" and "some corner BLB is to be expected". So I agreed with you from the get go that there is "something" there. You are not going to get a "perfect" panel - certainly not with the technology being employed here. There is always going to be IPS glow on an IPS panel. And on curved monitors especially, some BLB on the corners seems to just be par for the course. The only issue we care about is the severity of the phenomenon - do you notice it. I'm not going to take someone's subjective opinion and use it as my own - that's ridiculous, even though you seem to imply that that's what I want to do. I'm pointing out that this is a subjective thing - what is unacceptable to one person is not to another. The severity of the effect and how sensitive an individual is to that effect is all that matters. I can only get one part of the equation from a photo - even if distorted because it will be displayed through my own imperfect monitor. The other part is down to me, and that's subjective. I was pointing out that you can't judge the severity of the effects in the photos provided, so you shouldn't attempt to. They are present, but they will always be present on curved IPS UW monitors. So the only thing we can do is assess the severity of the effect on each monitor - which you can't do with that photo. Since it's overexposed, both the BLB and IPS glow will be exaggerated - you can't draw any conclusions apart from "there's something present but I don't know if it's enough to cause any real problem to me".
Well put.
So D3K shouldn't draw any conclusions except for the fact that the panel is damaged, which is all that picture was intended to show.
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Does anybody know what the OCUK policy is on dead pixels, blb, etc?
Just the standard most online retailers use. Just make sure you test the screen for any problems early on and don't wait before trying it.
If you try to RMA outside the DSR window then unless there is something seriously wrong you're stuck with the warranty.
Mediamarkt Germany 34GK950G units expected in 3 weeks: https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_lg-34gk950g-2480420.html
I had the same payment problem but with First Direct! Had to phone them up to unblock the card.
Halifax were really fussy with me last week when ordering stuff from here (and elsewhere). Their automatic security thing texted me six digit codes which I entered but the transaction was still blocked. Ended up having to call them to get it sorted, was told it was an unusual IP that had triggered it. Recently switched to Linux at work so wondered if that was the reason.
Order for this went through last night with no issues.
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I had same problem last night then ordering, but second try went through.
If either of you have paid any attention to all of the other IPS panel threads with their photos, they are all much of a muchness unless someone is rocking an decent camera. BLB shows, glow shows (usually overexaggerated) and even overexposed images are a decent metric once you've seen your photos and compared them to others. I've corrected katscan on his comment that there are no issues. To say so is like saying your monitor is perfect. What usually happens is posters acknowledge the ips defects and state that the camera does it no justice.
I'm reasonably sure that these monitors will be of an ilk with the dell, and if you end up with glow all over the screen you've lucked out, send it back. But that monitor has blb and glow like every other IPS and to state otherwise is untrue.
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These are not subjective features. Your tolerance means you can ignore them, but they are present.
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I think the entirety of this misunderstanding stems from this:
What these words mean to me is that the problem present (the reason for return) is the fact that the panel is completely damaged, and not the presence of BLB or IPS glow - katscan is not stating that the panel is 100% devoid of any semblance of BLB or IPS glow (for which varying levels of intensity elicit different responses and therefore what is acceptable to each individual varies - this is what's meant by "subjective stuff like that..").
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Getting bored of the blb discussion. Everyone knows that when they’re in the market for an IPS, blb is inherent. Unless it’s fundamentally bad it’s part and parcel of the monitor lottery. If you can’t deal with it, move on to other panel types such as VA, but don’t think the grass is greener, as other panels such as VA suffer from ghosting. You’re literally swapping one nag for another. There is no such thing as the perfect monitor.