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LG 38GL950G - 3840x1600/G-Sync/144Hz

Discussion in 'Monitors' started by Legend, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. Vega

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    Got excited when I saw it had G-Sync, then deflated when I saw the launch timeline, lol.
     
  2. knekker

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    If the monitor is using the same panel as the 34GK950, which is a panel that is already in mass production, one would think that it shouldn't take same long Q3-4 time frame to get it ready for consumer selling, as it did with the 34GK950? But you know more than us, so I will take your word for it.
     
  3. Daniel - LG

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    Good things come to those who wait :)
     
  4. Daniel - LG

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    its not same panel. 34GK950G is 34", this is 38"
     
  5. knekker

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    Ah ok. Thanks for clearing that up.
     
  6. Daniel - LG

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    So apologies if this repeats any info, but here are some specs I can release for this model;

    38" Ultrawide 3840x1600 Res
    450 nits
    DCI-P3 98% coverage from Nano-IPS display (I think)
    HDMI, DP & USB
    G-Sync
    144Hz
    Sphere Lighting (like on 32GK850G and 34GK950G)
    Dynamic Action Sync, Black Stabilizer
     
  7. JGF111

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    How about monitor dimensions? Too early or can you dig those up (without stand pls!!)
     
  8. akaRonin

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    ...can you try to find out if a FreeSync 2 version is planned at all ?...

    I'm so disappointed that a FreeSync 2 version was not mentioned in this announcement... :(
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2018
  9. JediFragger

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    They'll be pretty much exact to the 38UC99 imo.
     
  10. Legend

    Soldato

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    Is this native 144Hz? No overclocking nonsense to confuse everyone would be nice.
     
  11. thedesigner2011

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    I’ve literally created an account just so I could follow this discussion. I went from a 24 inch Throwaway monitor to the 34UC97 to the Acer x34, and after almost 3 years the magic is starting to wane. I need something a tad bigger for my work charts and gaming, and last night I saw that TFT article and got excited that this might be the one, so the HDR drop is a tad disappointing. Another factor I’m curious about is if the size increase will be noticeably more immersive than the 34”. Its part of the reason I’m no longer interested in 34”, the size is a bit small after all these years. The 49” is too much, I can’t imagine sacrificing my speaker positioning for that behemoth, so it’s really the 38” ultra wide or the 43” super ultra wide for me. Watching this with tentative excitement.
     
  12. Vega

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    I'd disregard all of these monitors with "HDR" that is below 600 nits spec. You aren't going to get real HDR highlights with a regular edge lit back-light.
     
  13. SKeijmel

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    i say 2K $$$ for this monitor ;D
     
  14. a5cent

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    In regard to HDR:

    nVidia's older v1 G-SYNC module is limited to 3440x1440@120Hz. Even if a 3440x1440 G-SYNC monitor includes a panel that can reach beyond 120 Hz, the v1 G-SYNC module will limit the monitor to 120 Hz regardless (see 34GK950G).

    It follows that 3840x1600@144Hz (as supported by the 38GL950G) is beyond the capabilities of the v1 G-SYNC module, meaning this monitor will ship with the newer v2 G-SYNC module. The v2 G-SYNC module supports HDR (or more precisely, the v2 G-SYNC module supports the HDR10 protocol).

    If a monitor combines a newer panel with a HDR10 capable controller, then nothing prevents the manufacturer from at least slapping a DisplayHDR 400 badge on it. Combining this panel with the v2 G-SYNC module already provides LG with everything that is necessary to achieve that HDR certification level and it does so without LG having to invest a penny more into engineering.

    Two assumptions:
    • nVidia doesn't release an entirely new revision of their v1 DP1.2 G-SYNC module that supports 3840x1600@144Hz (according to the DP1.2 spec, DP1.2 provides enough bandwidth to drive that resolution and refresh rate, but DP1.2 doesn't support HDR10).
    • LG won't pass up the marketing opportunity to slap a HDR badge on any monitor that can be called HDR capable without being taken to court for false advertising (so far this has been true of every monitor OEM).
    Without a FALD backlight a DisplayHDR 1000 certification is off the table. LG might go with a DisplayHDR 600 or 400 certification, or forgo the official VESA certifications entirely and just slap their own "HDR capable" badge on it. If the above two assumptions are true, then LG is practically guaranteed to go with one of those options. That this monitor, with a v2 G-SYNC module, isn't at least marketed as "HDR capable" is almost unthinkable.

    Of course DisplayHDR 400 shouldn't be taken seriously. Even DisplayHDR 600 barely deserves to be called HDR, but that is a different topic.
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2019
  15. Legend

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    I think we'll start to see microwaves marketed as HDR soon. The whole thing is a complete joke to be honest. Most people on this forum are wise to it of course, but the majority of consumers are not and it only gives the greenlight to manufacturers to whack a premium on every 'HDR' product they sell.

    I find it laughable that VESA claim to be a non-profit organisation... there is little doubt in my mind that some fat envelopes were passed underneath the table in order to get these so called 'standards' pushed through. The only ones that benefit are the manufacturers themselves. It's a sad state of affairs really. :(
     
  16. Lliam

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    38GL950G-B

    COMING SOON - 38" Class 21:9 UltraGear™ QHD+ Nano IPS LED Gaming Monitor w/ NVIDIA G-SYNC (38" Diagonal)
    Key Features

    37.5” Curved UltraWide® QHD+ (3840 x 1600) Nano IPS Display

    144Hz (OverClock 175Hz)
    NVIDIA G-SYNC Compatible v2 G-sync module
    Sphere Lighting 2.0
    3-Side Virtually Border-less Design
    Tilt and Height Adjustable

    VESA Display HDR 600 certified
    98% DCI-P3 colour space
    1000:1 contrast ratio, 450 cd/m2
    with DP 1.4 and HDMI 2.0 versions

    Looks like it will be expensive and a long way off but at this point looks like my next monitor purchase based on the projected features
     
  17. a5cent

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    ^ This is the link to the above mentioned lists of specs:

    https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-38GL950G-B-gaming-monitor

    True indeed. In my view that can unfortunately be said of any and all advertising and marketing. It's all manipulative BS specifically designed to make things appear better than they are. As PC enthusiasts we recognize the BS in this one area, but it's everywhere, and we can't be this informed about everything in our lives (or at least I can't). :-(

    Monitor OEMs are all VESA members, as are GPU manufacturers, OS developers and a few others. VESA is neither independent nor are they a consumer watchdog agency. VESA exists only because its members pay their dues. In exchange, VESA does exactly what its members want it to do in the way they want VESA to do it. Because VESA is paid by monitor OEMs, there is no need for any fat envelopes. Because membership dues just cover VESA's running costs, VESA technically is a non-profit. While VESA doesn't make a profit, it exists to facilitate cooperation between its members and ultimately, to improve the profits of its members.

    In short, VESA doesn't exist for us consumers. It exists for the industry that wants to sell to consumers (like every such organization in the world).
     
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  18. Baddass

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    Given the resolution and native 144hz / overclocked 175Hz this can’t be using the v1 Gsync module. I am anticipating the non FALD HDR version of the v2 module much like recently used for the Acer Predator XB273K. I would not expect FALD or HDR1000 on this new LG screen. The panel spec from LG Display is listed as VESA HDR 600 now so that’s a possibility but personally I think it will be too challenging to get HDR working with Gsync and so will be left off in any meaningful way here
     
  19. a5cent

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    That statement makes no sense. The v2 G-SYNC module was built specifically to support HDR. nVidia literally calls it their G-SYNC HDR module. That module represents a turnkey solution which monitor OEMs can just plop into their monitor. At that point there is literally NOTHING left for the OEM to do in order for HDR to work in tandem with G-SYNC. That is the opposite of challenging.

    As stated above, any half decent monitor (and most definitely a semi professional monitor like this one) incorporating the v2 module will support HDR and G-SYNC by default. Whether it deserves to be called HDR is a separate, marketing related issue.

    I'm unaware of the existence of a separate non-FALD version of the v2 G-SYNC module. AFAIK there is only ONE such v2 module. In monitors without a FALD backlight, the wiring that would carry the signals to control the FALD backlight is simply omitted.
     
  20. 3t3P

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    I was just thinking the other day we need bigger ultrawides with higher resolution!