LG CX (C10) OLED 2020 Thread

[Simmz]

This is a stupid noob question from someone thinking of taking the plunge on OLED; is it easy to switch between settings? Like, can I have a different profile for different types of content so that I can switch easily between gaming and watching movies for example?

Yeah, you will most likely use 4 settings.

Gaming mode - For Gaming
HDR - For streaming HDR stuff mainly Amazon content
Dolby Vision - Mainly used on Netflix and Disney+
Then a standard mode like expert dark room / bright room - For standard TV hd content etc.

 

[Jonnycoupe]

Yes the settings change for the inputs, so gaming with its own HDMI will likely auto detect VRR and switch anyway.

4k Amazon auto jumps to HDR for example. Grand tour was awesome on that with the one where they are solderings in the helicopter, the panning scenes smooth makes the motion crystal clear for both judder and motion blur but its so unnatural looking, i think cineme clear is a decent in between .

 

[Random Guy Esq.]

Yeah, you will most likely use 4 settings.

Gaming mode - For Gaming
HDR - For streaming HDR stuff mainly Amazon content
Dolby Vision - Mainly used on Netflix and Disney+
Then a standard mode like expert dark room / bright room - For standard TV hd content etc.

Yes the settings change for the inputs, so gaming with its own HDMI will likely auto detect VRR and switch anyway.

4k Amazon auto jumps to HDR for example. Grand tour was awesome on that with the one where they are solderings in the helicopter, the panning scenes smooth makes the motion crystal clear for both judder and motion blur but its so unnatural looking, i think cineme clear is a decent in between .

Thanks guys!

 

[XeNoN89]

After getting my Ps5 I am really close to buying one of these. Anything I should take into consideration? Also where is the cheapest right now for the 55inch?

 

[Noxia]

I can't remember how I did it but if I say show photos on the remote it shows my google photos. It doesn't seem up to date though as new photos I take never show. Does anyone know how to unlink it?
Also, can I assume that there is no way to cast the phone screen (pixel 5) to the tv as the tv uses miracast and my phone uses chromecast?

 

[photoshop]

Im having a bit of a nightmare with my LG OLED65CX5LB.

Everytime I connect it via ethernet to my router I get no more than 2Mbps download (upload is not affected and get full 20Mbps).
However, on WIFI i get around 150mb - 135mbps download and full upload of 20mbps. Im on a virgin 200Mb BB package.

I simply can not watch anything online when using ethernet! I'm using wifi which works fine even when streaming 4K HRD content but i would still prefer to use dedicated ethernet.

I've checked the ethernet cable with my laptop and it works just fine with around 200-210Mbps download speed.

Faulty Ethernet port? Some setting causing issue with ethernet download speed?

 

[bash247]

Im having a bit of a nightmare with my LG OLED65CX5LB.

Everytime I connect it via ethernet to my router I get no more than 2Mbps download (upload is not affected and get full 20Mbps).
However, on WIFI i get around 150mb - 135mbps download and full upload of 20mbps. Im on a virgin 200Mb BB package.

I simply can not watch anything online when using ethernet! I'm using wifi which works fine even when streaming 4K HRD content but i would still prefer to use dedicated ethernet.

I've checked the ethernet cable with my laptop and it works just fine with around 200-210Mbps download speed.

Faulty Ethernet port? Some setting causing issue with ethernet download speed?

It might be a pain in the backside depending on how many changes you've made to the settings but a resetting TV settings? Are you using the same port on your router to test the TV and laptop using the same cable?

 

[Kenai]

If WiFi does everything you need it to do, why the preference for ethernet, given it's evidently not working correctly and will need work to sort it?

I can understand preferring ethernet when WiFi is dropping out, unreliable etc. but if it's giving a connection and handles 4K HDR streams, why spend time buggering about with ethernet for no actual benefit?

Edit - also, happy to be corrected, but pretty sure the CX is still rocking the same crappy 10/100 spec ethernet ports LG seem to love, not decent Gigabit connections, so even if you get it working perfectly, it'll max out at 100Mbps

 

[LuckyBenski]

Edit - also, happy to be corrected, but pretty sure the CX is still rocking the same crappy 10/100 spec ethernet ports LG seem to love, not decent Gigabit connections, so even if you get it working perfectly, it'll max out at 100Mbps

To be honest I don't think I've seen any TV with a gigabit connection. Maybe I haven't been looking.

 

[photoshop]

It might be a pain in the backside depending on how many changes you've made to the settings but a resetting TV settings? Are you using the same port on your router to test the TV and laptop using the same cable?

If WiFi does everything you need it to do, why the preference for ethernet, given it's evidently not working correctly and will need work to sort it?

I can understand preferring ethernet when WiFi is dropping out, unreliable etc. but if it's giving a connection and handles 4K HDR streams, why spend time buggering about with ethernet for no actual benefit?

Edit - also, happy to be corrected, but pretty sure the CX is still rocking the same crappy 10/100 spec ethernet ports LG seem to love, not decent Gigabit connections, so even if you get it working perfectly, it'll max out at 100Mbps

The reason i am tinkering around with the ethernet is because after paying so much money for the TV i would want it functioning as advertised otherwise something is defective.

After reading on the internet the ethernet is indeed 10/100mbits which is crap really of LG in this day and age so i am better off still using WIFI.

On AVForums, some people have been using USB 10/100/1000Gb Ethernet adapters with this TV using the built in USB ports to get around this issue. I have ordered one of these adapters which will arrive tomorrow so that will hopefully fully utilise my 200Mbit connection.

 

[mid_gen]

The reason i am tinkering around with the ethernet is because after paying so much money for the TV i would want it functioning as advertised otherwise something is defective.

After reading on the internet the ethernet is indeed 10/100mbits which is crap really of LG in this day and age so i am better off still using WIFI.

On AVForums, some people have been using USB 10/100/1000Gb Ethernet adapters with this TV using the built in USB ports to get around this issue. I have ordered one of these adapters which will arrive tomorrow so that will hopefully fully utilise my 200Mbit connection.

How will you know it's fully utilising your connection or not, outside of a speedtest? Seems a bit daft....

 

[FrankJH]

OLED's have inherently poor motion for 24p content due to the instant pixel response time. I can provide you with timestamps if you like for films where this will illustrate the terrible motion issues which plague OLEDs. The problem is that once you see it, its hard to un-see it.

Plasmas, LCD panels and projectors all have far superior motion resolution for 24p content than an OLED. If you have access to the film 1917, I can provide you with one (or many) timestamps. The fix for this is to enable motion interpolation but that replaces film-like motion with... unnatural motion against director's intent (and it looks bad).

If people can ignore the motion issue, its great. I personally dealt with it fine until I used a Sony HW40ES projector. Then I realised how bad the LG OLED motion was in comparison. It wasn't just the motion processing; OLED's are fighting its own inherent flaws within the tech for 24p content. Since I used the HW40Es PJ, I found it VERY hard to go back to OLED motion because honestly the stutter occurs on average maybe every 5 minutes dependant on the film and content. Eventually I returned the 77'' GX/CX and now I am waiting to see if Sony next year can refine their motion handling capabilities to deal with the issues on the 77'' AH9 or whatever they call it.

I'm also waiting to see if JVC or Epson update their PJ lines with HDMI 2.1 and DTM.


OLED = amazing gaming displays, but im so surprised that reviewers don't bring up the flaws of OLED for 24p content.

In one sense you made a terrible choice in going with the 77" version of the TV in the first place as this will only exaggerate this issue, I do feel for you that you are one of the many people (but by most accounts not all) that even notice this in the first place.

On a 48" or 55" version of the same panel the issue is practically non-existent just because the scale is so much less

Unfortunately there are pros and cons to every kind of tech out there and as the old saying goes "you pay your money and you take your choice".

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The reason i am tinkering around with the ethernet is because after paying so much money for the TV i would want it functioning as advertised otherwise something is defective.

After reading on the internet the ethernet is indeed 10/100mbits which is crap really of LG in this day and age so i am better off still using WIFI.

On AVForums, some people have been using USB 10/100/1000Gb Ethernet adapters with this TV using the built in USB ports to get around this issue. I have ordered one of these adapters which will arrive tomorrow so that will hopefully fully utilise my 200Mbit connection.

yeah all lg OLEDs are stuck at 100mb which I agree with you in this day and age is nigh on criminal - but to give them credit the wifi onboard is amazing, Im streaming full bitrate 4k over wifi with no issue at all (doesn't excuse the poor LAN port admittedly)

If WiFi does everything you need it to do, why the preference for ethernet, given it's evidently not working correctly and will need work to sort it?

I can understand preferring ethernet when WiFi is dropping out, unreliable etc. but if it's giving a connection and handles 4K HDR streams, why spend time buggering about with ethernet for no actual benefit?

Edit - also, happy to be corrected, but pretty sure the CX is still rocking the same crappy 10/100 spec ethernet ports LG seem to love, not decent Gigabit connections, so even if you get it working perfectly, it'll max out at 100Mbps

From my experience (worked in IT for 30 years) most home wifi setups are pretty terrible relying on ISP standard bb modem , even fibre modem wifi isn't much better.

I always use fixed cabling if at all possible, its hugely more reliable once its working where as wifi can be affected by environment out of yuour control (like neighbours having a stronger signal in certain areas etc etc and can cost a lot more in certain circumstances to get working well especially if you need 4k bandwidth.

 

[AORUS]

After getting my Ps5 I am really close to buying one of these. Anything I should take into consideration? Also where is the cheapest right now for the 55inch?

I have the 55CX but haven't seen any low prices this month, but last month it was £1,299 from John Lewis also best to take out if you want the Protect Plus 5 year anti burn- in screen cover

Im on a virgin 200Mb BB package. I simply can not watch anything online when using ethernet! Faulty Ethernet port? Some setting causing issue with ethernet download speed?

I'm on virgin but mine is 500mb and yours only 200mb that's slow and I don't get any problems with ethernet

 

[Kenai]

From my experience (worked in IT for 30 years) most home wifi setups are pretty terrible relying on ISP standard bb modem , even fibre modem wifi isn't much better.

I always use fixed cabling if at all possible, its hugely more reliable once its working where as wifi can be affected by environment out of yuour control (like neighbours having a stronger signal in certain areas etc etc and can cost a lot more in certain circumstances to get working well especially if you need 4k bandwidth.

This is exactly why I said I understand the preference if your WiFi is unreliable but given he'd already stated his WiFi was performing fine and doing everything he needed, it just seems a bit of a wasted effort to be so determined to go hard wired for what actual tangible benefit?

 

[jpaul]

WiFi may not be unreliable now, but if you stress it, peak-time, with plex streaming 50Mb/s off of a NAS, or have to change wifi router location, then you may learn the contrary,
the Sony tv hardware architecture has similar issue, where budget has been put into the Wifi system;
you could do speed tests with its standard android OS - maybe that's true on a cx.

 

[photoshop]

I'm on virgin but mine is 500mb and yours only 200mb that's slow and I don't get any problems with ethernet

Only 200mb? I think 200mb is more than enough now and in the future for most things including streaming 4k UHD content. I wouldnt call it slow.

This is exactly why I said I understand the preference if your WiFi is unreliable but given he'd already stated his WiFi was performing fine and doing everything he needed, it just seems a bit of a wasted effort to be so determined to go hard wired for what actual tangible benefit?

Yes, wifi is performing fine now but i have another two TV's to install yet plus gaming on PS4 so when everything is setup and running i may run in to wifi issues with some many devices accessing large amounts of data. I also have a plex server where i stream 4K UHD content. It is always best to be hardwired for permanent connections.

WiFi may not be unreliable now, but if you stress it, peak-time, with plex streaming 50Mb/s off of a NAS, or have to change wifi router location, then you may learn the contrary,
the Sony tv hardware architecture has similar issue, where budget has been put into the Wifi system;
you could do speed tests with its standard android OS - maybe that's true on a cx.

Correct, Wifi can be dependent on a lot of factors.

 

[Simmz]

Just get a new Wifi 6 router if having streaming problems from plex, pretty much cuts out all the issues.

As for streaming 4k content 25mbps is more than enough for any streaming service anyway due to compression, codecs etc. There's a couple like youtube that will do 4k 60fps and I think BT UHD that will need around 45-50mbps.

I still highly recommend however trying actual 4k UHD disk, the difference between it and streaming is still massive. If you don't have a player or like disks, maybe try get ya hands on a MKV rip and play off of a USB drive if can get off a friend or something, I guarantee it might change your mind

 

[jpaul]

sony tv wifi review I referred to, showing test strategy/design trade-offs

Spoiler: sony wify issues

Network Streaming
As for network connectivity, the whole Sony Android TV line-up features a 100mpbs Ethernet port only and up to 802.11ac Wi-Fi with 2x2 MIMO rated at 866mbps (on 80MHz wide channels). This looks perfectly sufficient for media streaming at first glance. However, Ultra HD Blu-ray specifies up to 128mpbs which disqualifies the Ethernet port right away. Question is though, whether you really want to waste 80-100GB per movie on your media server, not to mention streaming it off the internet.

With 802.11ac 2x MIMO, you are supposed to theoretically get real world data rates of up to 430mbps at optimal conditions. A bottleneck which cuts the maximum throughput in half on Sony right away is that the Wi-Fi controller seems to internally be hooked up to the SoC via USB 2.0 only. Sony probably cut some costs here by not adding an USB 3.0 hub controller.


In order to test network playback performance, I used the jellyfish bitrate files. For Ultra HD Blu-ray compliancy, I even went up to the 120mbps (17.5MB/s) sample. Even though that sounds like overkill, 4K@60fps means quite some data, even for HEVC/VP9 with 4:2:0 chroma subsampling.

The samples were streamed off of Windows and Linux based servers with various protocols such as DLNA, SMB and NFS. Kodi has been used as the primary player on the Sony TV.


I first tried to play the sample off of a fast USB 3.0 HDD in order to verify that the MT5890 is capable of decoding HEVC Main 10 High@Level 5.1 at such a high bitrate. I also stress-tested my network infrastructure (server ⇒ Gibt Ethernet Switch ⇒ Wi-Fi access point ⇒ Wi-Fi client station) to rule out any potential bottleneck. All tests went well with the network achieving a stable 300-400mbps (TCP traffic) over 802.11ac at the same distance as the Sony TV in direct line of sight of the access point.


The Sony TV however didn’t even come close to the throughput achieved by the other 802.11ac clients I tried. While WiFi Speed Test, downloading data via TCP from the server to the Sony TV, attested a staggering 100mbps on average with previous firmware versions, Nougat at least raised the bar to a stable 200mbps.

As for playing back the jellyfish bitrate files over Wi-Fi, the Nougat based Sony TV for the first time played the 120mbps sample just fine via various servers and protocols from within Kodi. But the weak ARM cores have pretty much been maxed out. Keep in mind that the sample is 30fps only. I am quite confident that the TV would have stumbled at 60fps. So still beware that those TVs have primarily been designed to play those heavily compressed 24p Netflix and Prime Video streams.


I haven’t performed any range tests. Access point and Sony TV have been positioned about 4-5m from each other in direct line of sight. Throughput might drastically decrease with distance and obstacles in between your TV and the access point.

 

[iMacMart]

Afternoon all

I'm looking to purchase a LG 55BX my first OLED since my Samsung was written off, what's the best wall mount for these (I have single power socket behind otherwise I'd go flush

 

[AORUS]

Afternoon all I'm looking to purchase a LG 55BX my first OLED since my Samsung was written off, what's the best wall mount for these (I have single power socket behind otherwise I'd go flush

You do know that the BX is α7 Gen3 Processor OLED compare to the CX α9 Gen3 Processor so the BX is cheaper for an entry level OLED but the choice is yours