Life in South Africa...

EDIT: Removing video as a precaution after the questionable removal of someone elses video by a mod. If anyone is interested then it was from youtube and you can search for "South Africa Descends into Chaos - What is Really Happening?" by Lauren Southern.
 
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Malevolence said:
I don't know. I posted a short 30s video showing nothing but wreckage in the street after the looting (cars, trucks and random detritus strewn all over the place) and recieved a warning because, for some bizarre reason, it was deemed 'inappropriate'. So your guess is as good as mine.
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I also agree with @200sols, having watched your webm I would say there was nothing in it that required a member of the Mod team to remove it (just showed a road covered in debris port event with no audio). So to clear up any confusion it would be nice if the Mod team made the full reason for its removal public rather than a simple "inappropriate" so that we can all avoid posting something similar, as I know I would have had zero concerns about posting the same thing and now I find I could get a forum warning for it.
 
ianh said:
I also agree with @200sols, having watched your webm I would say there was nothing in it that required a member of the Mod team to remove it (just showed a road covered in debris port event with no audio). So to clear up any confusion it would be nice if the Mod team made the full reason for its removal public rather than a simple "inappropriate" so that we can all avoid posting something similar, as I know I would have had zero concerns about posting the same thing and now I find I could get a forum warning for it.
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Mods work for Zuma. It's all a big conspiracy ya know.
 
dLockers said:
Mods work for Zuma. It's all a big conspiracy ya know.
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:D

Just after a clarification incase there was specific aspect of the video which got the post deleted or some other reason that we need to know about to avoid posting something similar. I mean the video was a roadside level version of a street similar to what this looks like but had been video'd after everyone had left so it only showed the aftermath, just lots of debris on the roads, which is why I think we need a little clarification. I mean is this image OK or will it be deleted, who knows?

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I saw it - I didn't see anything particular wrong with it, although it does show quite shocking devastation, carnage, and makes you think about how violent and terrifying it must have been. I guess mods saw the "nefarious" link (i.e. non YouTube/Twitter/whatever) and took caution.

I was waiting for something pretty miserable to happen when I opened it tbf :p
 
As an ex-south african myself it is good to see that UK people dont see this as a racial thing. It has nothing to do with race, there are extremist parties with extremist views and these people tend to cause the biggest scene.
Another important point is culture and tribalism. Lets not forget that south africa has 11 official languages... which suggests 11 tribes and culture that they are officially recognising (there are still more smaller ones).
This is a purely political fight, it is inner ruling party (anc) conflict.

It is sad that many people think this is racial because they see white guys shooting black guys, or indians shooting black. It isnt. SA is still very divided so there are white dominant areas, black dominant areas, Indian dominant areas. When someone attacks a white dominant area you are going to see white dudes with guns, the same for indians etc. In soweto (black dominant area) there is plenty of footage of black people shooting blacks. Im not saying racism doesnt exist in SA, oh there most certainly is but this particular 'incident' is politicly motivated.

Not to ramble on too much, but there is a huge unknown element here. They calling it the invisible man. Someone is orchestrating these attacks and is doing so with a lot of intel. They cannot find this person or have any idea who it may be. This to me screams terrorism and I wish it could be labelled as such.
 
Malevolence said:
I don't know. I posted a short 30s video showing nothing but wreckage in the street after the looting (cars, trucks and random detritus strewn all over the place) and recieved a warning because, for some bizarre reason, it was deemed 'inappropriate'. So your guess is as good as mine.
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I watched that. I don't recall anything in there being mod worthy. Bit bizarre really.
 
Dr. DI said:
As an ex-south african myself it is good to see that UK people dont see this as a racial thing. It has nothing to do with race, there are extremist parties with extremist views and these people tend to cause the biggest scene.
Another important point is culture and tribalism. Lets not forget that south africa has 11 official languages... which suggests 11 tribes and culture that they are officially recognising (there are still more smaller ones).
This is a purely political fight, it is inner ruling party (anc) conflict.

It is sad that many people think this is racial because they see white guys shooting black guys, or indians shooting black. It isnt. SA is still very divided so there are white dominant areas, black dominant areas, Indian dominant areas. When someone attacks a white dominant area you are going to see white dudes with guns, the same for indians etc. In soweto (black dominant area) there is plenty of footage of black people shooting blacks. Im not saying racism doesnt exist in SA, oh there most certainly is but this particular 'incident' is politicly motivated.

Not to ramble on too much, but there is a huge unknown element here. They calling it the invisible man. Someone is orchestrating these attacks and is doing so with a lot of intel. They cannot find this person or have any idea who it may be. This to me screams terrorism and I wish it could be labelled as such.
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It occurred to me yesterday that extremist groups such as Boko Haram, and similar groups, love a power vaccum and instability like this and are probably trying to take advantage of it.

I posted a Lauren Southern video above but have removed it temporarily until we know why the other posters video was removed. But her guest talks about this being centrally coordinated and politically motivated.
 
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Dr. DI said:
Not to ramble on too much, but there is a huge unknown element here. They calling it the invisible man. Someone is orchestrating these attacks and is doing so with a lot of intel. They cannot find this person or have any idea who it may be. This to me screams terrorism and I wish it could be labelled as such.
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There seems to be a concerted effort potentially with foreign nation state ties and unfortunately the man on the street is basically a puppet unable to see or in denial that someone is pulling their strings.

I don't think this is purely the work of a person behind the scenes internally. The question is who has the most to gain.
 
Rroff said:
I don't think this is purely the work of a person behind the scenes internally. The question is who has the most to gain.
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That's a fair point, and dont think we will know the answer for some time. It took 5 years for SA to figure out the state capture that had been running for close to 9 years.
 
This is no different than what has happened here, the London/England riots etc, or the Watts riots in the US we just seem to have more effective strategy to control it. I assume public/independent schools have a lot to do with that. They produce people outside of the herd and install a sense of duty in them and that seems to be effective.
 
Hades said:
I watched that. I don't recall anything in there being mod worthy. Bit bizarre really.
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Ah, I saw that too, I wonder if it was the webm hosting site rather than the video?

Depending on what adverts popped up for the mod who saw it - “hot single girls in your area” or some sort of porn site type targeted ads might have caused them to delete.

I doubt anyone on the mod team wants to censor some footage of general destruction/property damage.
 
Yeah, could be the hosting. But if it was a dodgy advert then that's usually down to the browsing habits of the person watching. Come on Mods, have you been spending too much time in the OcUK pr0n subforum?
 
Maccapacca said:
It was the hosting, when I clicked it I got anime pawn half pictures so removed it.

Couldn’t see the original video.
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LOOOOOL

Yo video poster, you got some explaining to do.....

All I think now is what next? the country has taken a massive hit from covid as everyone has, now they go on to destroy all businesses large and small and food supplies.

This is going to get uglier before it gets better, I feel really sorry for people there who are law abiding citizens just trying to live their lives.
 
Some of this stuff is pretty mindless - like you'd perhaps expect poor people to take advantage of some disorder to do a bit of looting, you see that anywhere - electrical goods, food, trainers etc.. getting stolen from shops when law and order breaks down in a given areas - happens in the US, happened in London a decade ago etc...

A dialysis facility though for people with kidney failure etc.. getting burned down? I guess it might be collateral damage, just happened to be there when the Zulus going on a rampage were looking for "stuff" to mindlessly attack, but also possibly deliberately targeted - taking down essential services/infrastructure etc..
 
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