Presumably anyone in Cape Town or in say some remote area - big mansion or hotel in the middle of a game reserve or safari/tourist place is just chilling still, this is all happening around Durban and the areas around Johannesburg like Soweto etc..
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Presumably anyone in Cape Town or in say some remote area - big mansion or hotel in the middle of a game reserve or safari/tourist place is just chilling still, this is all happening around Durban and the areas around Johannesburg like Soweto etc..
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When this thread went up up a month or so ago, there I was thinking this was just another casual riot. This is beginning to look like a civil war in the making.
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Just seen a load more videos and it's like a cross between Army of the Dead and Dying Light. Looks majorly ******* scary.
There is a lot going on - several different factions making a play for removing the old guard both Zuma and the current administration and want a complete fresh politics using a message of uniting the people.
Then you have all the stuff with Zuma, the current government and people on 3 different sides of that. Given the level of organisation going on behind the scenes, despite the chaos seen up front, someone is definitely pulling the strings.
There seems to be an effort to accumulate firearms and ammunition as well, some of the breaking into general stores, etc. has been to mask looting ammunition storage facilities (as in sites a mob couldn't casually gain entry to) as well as looting gun shops, etc. - it doesn't seem to be related to the current vigilante groups, etc.
117 people dead, more than 20,000 troops deployed.
We're beyond shenanigans now. This has escalated to a rumpus.
We're beyond shenanigans now. This has escalated to a rumpus.
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I doubt anything so nobel will come of this. As soon as you mix casual criminals with the ideologically driven it gives the authorities sufficient deniability to crack down on both.
Probably not with the looting, but defiantly with Zuma. I do wonder if there is any hope for South Africa politically.
Yer... They're becoming the foremost case study in white flight. The only upside is that they are also increasingly proving that greed corruption and exploitation are innately human characteristics which transcend race.
I certainly wasn't implying anything nobel at best opportunists, possibly more sinister intended, with their own agenda.
Hopefully link works https://www.facebook.com/antonkoen777/videos/530860974921428 if people think this is just a bit of protesting or even just some internal factions potentially uprising think again (this is just one of several similar targets).
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Sadly it’s more than just those areas - we have family who have just moved back from SA (took them months to plan and arrange due to covid), they ran a reserve/farm near Ladysmith which has been ransacked as well. It’s happening everywhere, just not being publicised as much.
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Mostly peaceful protests again i suspect!
How do these people not realise that destroying supply chains and even the means of food production, is not sticking it to the man, but actually destroying essential infrastructure needed to keep people alive.
It's bizarre.
Things are very different over there, lack of education plays a big part sadly and a lot of it is just focusing on survival for the short term
I guess perhaps it's more sporadic in other areas? Like I can see how individual farms being attacked perhaps isn't news at a time when there is mass destruction in and around a couple of major cities?
Some other cities seem to be safe (by SA standards, for the moment at least).
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I think you underestimate these people, I mean what are you actually trying to say about their intelligence?
People have known for 1000's of years that if you destroy your crops there will be no food.
They didn't need a GCE in science to know this.
What level of education do you need to know that smashing things up, burning things down and looting is not a good idea?
From friends of friends out there a few of them pay daily not weekly or monthly.
As if they paid a week upfront the employee would spend it all on booze/something stupid and then just not come back to work.
Human mindset is very much "this instant now for me".
Why throw your mcdonalds bag out of the car window into the verge when there's bins every 10ft?
Same thing
One is pure laziness though, destruction requires effort.
But it's fun... and you get to steal some stuff.
Football fans destroy stuff, protesters, drunk idiots, teenagers
They do. And they can have high levels of education. Thus I'd say education ain't the issue.