Light Bulb Ban Fail
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sorry about sizes
Genie bulb - after an initial week or so of use these can come on bright and be at their full brightness after 3 seconds
Tornado bulb - Instant turn on after a week of normal use.
Prices vary but we sell the genies 40w/60w/100w for 35p all wattages and the tornados are 50w/65w 115w and 130w at £1.95
You pay a little more for them but they work more effectively.
better still are the eco classic 30 - 30% saving on electricity and looks the same as an incandescent.
or eco classic 50 - 50% saving but looks less like an incandescent
both eco classic types come as soft tone and clear
Genie bulb - after an initial week or so of use these can come on bright and be at their full brightness after 3 seconds
Tornado bulb - Instant turn on after a week of normal use.
Prices vary but we sell the genies 40w/60w/100w for 35p all wattages and the tornados are 50w/65w 115w and 130w at £1.95
You pay a little more for them but they work more effectively.
better still are the eco classic 30 - 30% saving on electricity and looks the same as an incandescent.
or eco classic 50 - 50% saving but looks less like an incandescent
both eco classic types come as soft tone and clear
Sorry, are you saying some of the new energy saving bulbs don't take 20-30 seconds to reach their full brightness?
And what about in the case of dimmable versions to?
oh sorry I forgot 
we're selling the 30's for £1.95 (lasts 2 years) and the 50's are still £6.95 (lasts either 2 or 3 years)
Obviously the genies know last 10 years and the tornadoes are lasting 8 years, but this is another thing that's improving over time
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we're selling the 30's for £1.95 (lasts 2 years) and the 50's are still £6.95 (lasts either 2 or 3 years)
Obviously the genies know last 10 years and the tornadoes are lasting 8 years, but this is another thing that's improving over time
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No sorry, all new bulbs on the market should use the 3 second rule. the 30 second rule is the older type of bulb which most people think of when the hear about energy saving, these bulbs are no longer available (in most shops)
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Oh! The ones I have were sent to us for free from our electricity supplier last year. They definately take a good 20+ seconds to reach their full brightness...
So all modern ones - including dimmer friendly ones - are 3 seconds or so? That's fine!
well I'd honestly say that if you want to dimm any bulbs, then use the eco classic style. These bulbs use the halogen based G9 bulbs and are better for the increase in electricty, also these bulbs can be used in touch lamps.
with what I was saying ealier, halogen based bulbs produce about 30-50% more light for their wattage. What the manufacturers have done now is calculated the actual output and worked back so that the extra light is now a saving, hence the eco classic based bulbs.
For the eco classic 30's you can get 28w/40w - 42w/60w - 70w/100w and 105w/150w
for the eco classic 50's I've only seen 20w/40w - 30w/60w
G9's are also available as 28w/40w
with what I was saying ealier, halogen based bulbs produce about 30-50% more light for their wattage. What the manufacturers have done now is calculated the actual output and worked back so that the extra light is now a saving, hence the eco classic based bulbs.
For the eco classic 30's you can get 28w/40w - 42w/60w - 70w/100w and 105w/150w
for the eco classic 50's I've only seen 20w/40w - 30w/60w
G9's are also available as 28w/40w
Well, we have 3 traditional bayonet bulbs in our lounge/dining room which are the most used lights in the house. So if we were going to replace these with energy savers, only saving 20-30% wouldn't make sense surely when there's options to save around 80%?
ie: Why not get dimming friendly energy saving bulbs?
I switched to cfl in cyprus because the traditional bulbs blew after about a week, these lasted my entire stay, 2 years+ the halogens didnt last well for me there either.
That's a downside to halogen bulbs lol
if you live in an area that has problems with power surges then the eco classic ones could also be effected. Originally the halogen bulbs are essentially overclocked as they work far hotter and harder then a standard incandescent bulb for the wattage being used.
thus because it's using less in terms of wattage doesn't mean it's better in terms of running costs.
There's a lot you have to check to find good bulbs:
wattage equivalent - not always best to compare but to state what's being used
lumen - measurement of light output
lifespan - measured in either hours or years(1,000 hours is equivilant to a year [equals on average 3.3 hours a day])
energy rating - A-G rating
one example is the soft tone based Genie bulbs. They're sold as 40w/60w/75w/100w. All are A rated except for the 75w which is rated B.
Again I admit there needs to be consistency between all manufacturers and bulbs released from each.
Dr Who - You able to find an image of the one you have?
if you live in an area that has problems with power surges then the eco classic ones could also be effected. Originally the halogen bulbs are essentially overclocked as they work far hotter and harder then a standard incandescent bulb for the wattage being used.
thus because it's using less in terms of wattage doesn't mean it's better in terms of running costs.
There's a lot you have to check to find good bulbs:
wattage equivalent - not always best to compare but to state what's being used
lumen - measurement of light output
lifespan - measured in either hours or years(1,000 hours is equivilant to a year [equals on average 3.3 hours a day])
energy rating - A-G rating
one example is the soft tone based Genie bulbs. They're sold as 40w/60w/75w/100w. All are A rated except for the 75w which is rated B.
Again I admit there needs to be consistency between all manufacturers and bulbs released from each.
Dr Who - You able to find an image of the one you have?
Tbh the ban makes me feel like ''**** off gov mind your own ****ing business'' we pay for the elec if we want to use 100w bulbs then it's none of their business.
Definitely not, 60 w is way too dark, in fact I remember we always search for the completely transparent 100w ones rather than the mat ones as the mat ones are still too dark. I like to sit in a bright room anyways and not in a dark one.
What I don't like is that 20 or more watts energy saving bulbs are still stupidly expensive
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Also very annoying that they sometimes say ''life 1 year'' because I use my light about 10 hours a day not 3.3 hrs ( and more than 12 in the winter).
Definitely not, 60 w is way too dark, in fact I remember we always search for the completely transparent 100w ones rather than the mat ones as the mat ones are still too dark. I like to sit in a bright room anyways and not in a dark one.
What I don't like is that 20 or more watts energy saving bulbs are still stupidly expensive
.Also very annoying that they sometimes say ''life 1 year'' because I use my light about 10 hours a day not 3.3 hrs ( and more than 12 in the winter).
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Energy saving ones are cheaper, usually you can pick them up 5 for about a quid in a supermarket, save on electricity and do the same job.
Theres a lot of people who care about their wallet but what sort of boring person cares about the lightbulbs in their lights?
Because "I don't want to be on the energy saving bandwagon" or something even though it makes complete sense, for no effort at all you save money and you save resources.
Theres a lot of people who care about their wallet but what sort of boring person cares about the lightbulbs in their lights?
Because "I don't want to be on the energy saving bandwagon" or something even though it makes complete sense, for no effort at all you save money and you save resources.
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