Thanks. Obviously the have now. Good
London Bridge Incident
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Thanks. Obviously the have now. Good
Thanks. Clearly I stand corrected. Good to read.
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Does intent matter to the victims and their families? Are you suggesting people murdered in terrorist attacks are somehow more important than those killed by drunk drivers (for example).
Tefal makes a very interesting point. 12000 people were killed by medical care mistakes in 2012, is that not a larger problem for people in the UK than terror attacks?
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Reading stuff on redit is scary. Lots of anti Muslims wanting all Muslims to leave the Uk etc etc.
It won't surprise me if some here feel the same but won't mention it here in a friendly forum.
Either way. Terrorists are winning
It won't surprise me if some here feel the same but won't mention it here in a friendly forum.
Either way. Terrorists are winning
Am I the only one that doesn't want condemnation, words don't help the dead.
I'd rather they self purge their places of worship, kick out the imams that teach hate, drag those with extremist views to police or shun them from the community so they can't infect others.
Actions are needed when words have failed
I'd rather they self purge their places of worship, kick out the imams that teach hate, drag those with extremist views to police or shun them from the community so they can't infect others.
Actions are needed when words have failed
You'd be surprised.
Just wondering if the Mayor of London has come out and called them "Uncle Toms" for that statement.
Bingo! People want to skirt past this fact but ISIS are only part of the problem, The Saudis iirc have pumped billions historically into 'charitable' organisations that propagate the spread of wahhabism/salifism...but that's ok because our massive military/tech contracts are worth the collateral. This will continue on and on as long as the oil money is there as part of these organisations will undoubtedly breed the extremist sects that we see carrying out these attacks.
I just can't understand why people spew facts that cloud things. It's such a liberal view and ideaology. That's not what's happened. This is the London Bridge terror attack thread. Not oh , let's talk about other people killing ...... take the attention away from Islamic extremists.
574 people where murdered last year vs 1 from terrorism (the mp stabbed by the nutter)
yet i dont see people calling for the internment of council estates.
It's probably not been widely reported because it's barely relevant at this moment, is it? Three men choose to go out and murder a bunch of people - quick, we must hold those Muslim leaders to account before we can fully establish what has happened and what links said leaders have with those individuals above and beyond they abide by the same religion 'in name'!! If they have been shown to be actively attending certain mosques and these specific leaders can be shown to encourage breeding grounds for extremism, then yes, people associated with those institutions should probably make a statement in explanation and be held to account.
And, as already posted, the Muslim British Council have condemned it - so not only is it a completely moot point, the suggestion that they haven't condemned it already is factually wrong.
What would it take to appease you?
its because funding is a zero sum game.,
do you stop possibly 1-30 deaths a hyear by spending 10 billion on anti terror campaigns like internment etc or do you stop say 12,000 deaths by investing in better medical training and practices?
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So you were on about the Human Rights Act, which protects our rights as humans. You go on to complain that it is abused by terrorists to prevent deportation. Are these terrorists you refer to not Muslims?
You then go on to say this...
Yea, you're forming a cracking argument here. And you try to accuse me of deflecting.
Its a troll argument you are perpetuating ....as you well know.
Heres why. We have very legitimate and constantly updated restrictions and controls on things like alcohol, cigarettes, sugar, car and road safety etc etc etc. Its called Health and Safety legislation. So comparing deaths from something like cars to terrorism is utterly ridiculous. There are millions of road users all using UK roads all the time. The deaths from such accidents is miniscule to the ratio of actual road users.
Now if the UK had millions of terrorists all attempting to commit terrorist acts in the same numbers and ratio as cars:road deaths then you might have a point.
So thats why we havent banned cars
The Mayor of London was one of the first to condemn it, you know that though.
Ahh ok,
Don't worry guys as we can't solve all crime in the UK so don't worry.
Until we can stop all types of murder don't worry about terrorism or it's causes. Not like all those acts were caused by separate persons.
Yes, this is the action we need to begin with. No action , no solution.
How can you quote these things alongside terrorism?